Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-07 Thread Dan Eicher
Can't we just not mess with the default settings unless there's a really, really good reason to change something? Seems like every time I want to model something I have to go poking around to figure out how to turn on/off something so it was the same as the last time I used blender and some of

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-07 Thread Michael Williamson
-blender developers Subject: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings Sent: 6 May 2012 17:50 Hi Devs (and curious people on the list like myself), As mentioned in the meeting, here is a list of proposal defaults based on community feedback from users (both old and new), and teachers

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-07 Thread Campbell Barton
http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers continuous grab works terribly with a graphics tablet... a dangerous default unless it can be made smart enough to know  what kind of input it has and act accordingly... already replied on this topic - continuous grab must ignore tablet

[Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread PabloVazquez.org
Hi Devs (and curious people on the list like myself), As mentioned in the meeting, here is a list of proposal defaults based on community feedback from users (both old and new), and teachers. http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Proposed_Default_Settings There are fair reasons for each one of these

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread François T .
*Trackball Rotation* instead of Turntable *(used to be this way)* really ? you are sure people does prefer Trackball ? Disable/Hide the *3D manipulator* (clutters 3DView and is bad practice for starters) Why is it bad practice ? actually becareful to not make things frustrating for starters

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread metalliandy
I really think its a bad idea to disable the 3d manipulator. People who don't like it can disable it if they want, but it should be on, imho, as Blender is a modelling application first and foremost. All other 3d applications show it by default so I'm not sure why Blender should be any

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread patrick boelens
for bone positioning as it gives me a good indication of placement and volume of the bone. This may very well just be me of course though. Cheers, Patrick From: venom...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 17:50:58 +0200 To: bf-committers@blender.org Subject: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Jonathan Williamson
Hey! Most of these are great! The only two that I would disagree with is: 1. Disable 3D Manipulator - even though I never use these I think they should be on my default because the greatly lower the learning curve for new and adoptive users. 2. Emulate 3 button mouse - I feel this should

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Dima Glibitsky
My 2 bits: trackball has always gave me frustrations, because I ended up looking on the scene lying on the floor/upside-down after every view rotation :) Manipulator is very useful, because you can see in what coordinate system you'll be transforming the objects, or what direction the object's

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread PabloVazquez.org
Thanks everybody for their feedback. That's why I made the page and started the discussion. 3D Manipulator: I agree it should be on by default. Somebody proposed it and I added it to the list because in all the courses I give, I find the students (even though I explain and write the G-R-S tools

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread shotalot
-boun...@blender.org To: bf-blender developers ReplyTo: bf-blender developers Subject: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings Sent: 6 May 2012 17:50 Hi Devs (and curious people on the list like myself), As mentioned in the meeting, here is a list of proposal defaults based on community

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Tobias Oelgarte
In 2.49 and 2.5 the first thing I did to use Blender was to switch to turntable. It isn't perfect for sculpting an texturing, since you loose some kind of freedom, but otherwise i feel much more comfortable with turntable. But there is a second thing that i always change. I switch the preset

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread CG Cookie
Tobias, I would agree with this. Even though it'll wreck havoc on my muscle memory it makes sense to me! -- Jonathan Williamson Instructor - http://www.blendercookie.com (http://www.blendercookie.com/) Personal Trainer - http://www.mavenseed.com (http://www.mavenseed.com/) Portfolio -

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Gianmichele Mariani
visual cue for all out new users, and its good for animation for things like gimbal lock. Otherwise I like it! --Original Message-- From: PabloVazquez.org Sender: bf-committers-boun...@blender.org To: bf-blender developers ReplyTo: bf-blender developers Subject: [Bf-committers] Proposal

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread François T .
2012/5/6 PabloVazquez.org venom...@gmail.com Thanks everybody for their feedback. That's why I made the page and started the discussion. 3D Manipulator: I agree it should be on by default. Somebody proposed it and I added it to the list because in all the courses I give, I find the

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Harley Acheson
Hello, One good use of defaults is to encourage discovery of differing options. Starting with an option on, even if it is later turned off at least shows a new user that the option exists. For this reason, not only would I keep the 3D manipulator enabled, but I would also turn all three

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Alberto Torres
Hello, Yes, please to: - Continuous grab. I would change it for 3D views so the mouse doesn't wrap inside the area but inside the whole window, but it's not important. - Auto-Perspective, and I'd also improve a little known feature where you can press alt when rotating: it should be using this

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Harley Acheson
And further to my earlier comment, I would similarly start with multiple layers visible as well, probably some subset like layers one through five. Having this the default would not affect anyone that knows Blender, but would show a new user that multiple layers can be visible simultaneously.

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Campbell Barton
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Alberto Torres kungfoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Yes, please to: - Continuous grab. I would change it for 3D views so the mouse doesn't wrap inside the area but inside the whole window, but it's not important. There are 2 reasons to wrap grab within the

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Daniel Salazar - 3Developer.com
I would like uno being handled like GIMP does: a minimum undo levels (regardless of memory used, ie: 5 steps) and a maximum memory used (regardless of how many steps that is, ie: 1024MB) Daniel Salazar patazstudio.com On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Joshua Leung
Hi, Trackball vs Turntable: I've always preferred turntable over trackball, and was responsible for the changeover in 2.60. IMO, 99% of trackballs out there are completely unusable as they are far too sensitive to vertical mouse movement, making it far too easy to accidentally tilt the view in

Re: [Bf-committers] Proposal on Default Settings

2012-05-06 Thread Jason Wilkins
-- Ambient Occlusion* to *Multiply* instead of Add Put me down to as saying this is a horrible idea. On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:50 AM, PabloVazquez.org venom...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Devs (and curious people on the list like myself), As mentioned in the meeting, here is a list of proposal