Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2012-01-02 Thread Campbell Barton
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Knapp magick.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:08 PM, David Jeske dav...@gmail.com wrote: Getting my 2 cents in on an old thread... On Dec 2, 2011 3:29 PM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.com wrote: There are many options here, I was going to list

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2012-01-02 Thread Matt Ebb
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.comwrote: I think this is enough - we could disable loading the file at all and then blender wont crash - or only allow loading when --debug is passed for people who know what there doing. not sure its worthwhile - people are

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2012-01-02 Thread Ton Roosendaal
Hi, When I reviewed BMesh todos with Campbell I specifically asked for ensuring we don't crash old binaries. The software of course cannot read the bmesh faces (showing emppty mesh), but files should not crash on it. You get the warning expect loss of data first of course. -Ton-

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2012-01-02 Thread Campbell Barton
no-crash, no-face - feature committed, also saves on undo memory and disk space :). save as legacy blend still works of course. On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Ton Roosendaal t...@blender.org wrote: Hi, When I reviewed BMesh todos with Campbell I specifically asked for ensuring we don't

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2012-01-02 Thread Rasmus Lerchedahl Petersen
no-crash, no-face - feature committed, also saves on undo memory and disk space :). save as legacy blend still works of course. On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Ton Roosendaal t...@blender.org wrote: Hi, When I reviewed BMesh todos with Campbell I specifically asked for ensuring we

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2012-01-02 Thread Campbell Barton
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Rasmus Lerchedahl Petersen rus...@eecs.qmul.ac.uk wrote: no-crash, no-face - feature committed, also saves on undo memory and disk space :). save as legacy blend still works of course. On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Ton Roosendaal t...@blender.org wrote:

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2012-01-02 Thread Mikhail
Guys compatiblity is really good right now. Stop thinking about that while we have awful bevel tool and have no brige face and inset tools. ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2012-01-01 Thread David Jeske
Getting my 2 cents in on an old thread... On Dec 2, 2011 3:29 PM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.com wrote: There are many options here, I was going to list all the ones I could think of but most have some fairly annoying drawbacks. You missed one of the best ones imo... New '2.6' is made

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2012-01-01 Thread Antony Riakiotakis
Ye gods, not this AGAIN! :) ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2012-01-01 Thread Knapp
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:08 PM, David Jeske dav...@gmail.com wrote: Getting my 2 cents in on an old thread... On Dec 2, 2011 3:29 PM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.com wrote: There are many options here, I was going to list all the ones I could think of but most have some fairly annoying

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2011-12-02 Thread Αντώνης Ρυακιωτάκης
Well, what about earlier versions of blender? They won't have the newer version checking code. But I like the idea of exporting function, or something close. ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2011-12-02 Thread Knapp
2011/12/2 Αντώνης Ρυακιωτάκης kal...@gmail.com: Well, what about earlier versions of blender? They won't have the newer version checking code. But I like the idea of exporting function, or something close. Yes, that is true but the idea does fix the problem for the next time it comes up, as it

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2011-12-02 Thread Knapp
One other idea just jumped up at me. Write a python add on for the old software that would allow for loading of the new format. Then users of 2.4 or whatever can download it and add it to their old blender. On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Knapp magick.c...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/12/2 Αντώνης

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2011-12-02 Thread Campbell Barton
There are many options here, I was going to list all the ones I could think of but most have some fairly annoying drawbacks. Currently BMesh triangulates the mesh when loaded in trunk or 2.4x, You could argue both ways... since mesh data is core to most blender projects... a) being forwards

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2011-12-01 Thread Mikhail Raisler
Maybe we must have separate compatibility save mode from regular save? Like if I wanna save for older versions I use check box compatibility save (disabled by default). Kind of Compress option. I think all will be satisfied with this. ___ Bf-committers

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2011-12-01 Thread ertuqueque
From an user perspective... Here's my 2 cents... I don't mind at all losing backwards compatibility... We achieve progress by moving forward. And I think the merge should be for 2.63... Not only because of Mango going full swing later, but because is a good idea to have a more stable BMesh ready

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2011-12-01 Thread Knapp
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:39 AM, ertuqueque ertuque...@gmail.com wrote: From an user perspective... Here's my 2 cents... I don't mind at all losing backwards compatibility... We achieve progress by moving forward. And I think the merge should be for 2.63... Not only because of Mango going

[Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2011-11-30 Thread Campbell Barton
As discussed last meeting, heres an updated bmesh merge proposal, http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Ideasman42/BMeshMergeProposal Main issues I'd like feedback on are... - Aim for 2.63 release. - Who is able to help with testing, running regression tests etc. - Can admin's agree on

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2011-11-30 Thread Mikhail Raisler
People already accept loss of their animation, psys and scripts. Why you think they will not accept loss of their mesh data? I think the point for artists is not have a good compatibility, but better have a good tools. ___ Bf-committers mailing list

Re: [Bf-committers] Updated BMesh Merge Proposal

2011-11-30 Thread Michael Fox
On 01/12/11 11:26, Campbell Barton wrote: As discussed last meeting, heres an updated bmesh merge proposal, http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Ideasman42/BMeshMergeProposal Main issues I'd like feedback on are... - Aim for 2.63 release. - Who is able to help with testing, running