Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-15 Thread Danilo Godec via bind-users
Hello, I'm noticing some unusual activity where 48 external IPs generated over 2M queries that have all been denied (just today): 15-Dec-2021 00:01:42.023 security: info: client @0x7f96180b3fe0 194.48.217.14#59698 (.): view outside: query (cache) './ANY/IN' denied 15-Dec-2021 00:01:42.023 securi

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
> Would I be doing a bad thing by using fail2ban to block these IPs? That’s the question that only you can answer. The IP addresses are not attacker’s but victim’s and you would be punishing those networks by blocking access from them to your network. Do you absolutely know that these IP address

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-15 Thread Andrew P .
with an error message? From: bind-users on behalf of Ondřej Surý Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 7:18 AM To: Danilo Godec Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied > Would I be doing a bad thing

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
: bind-users@lists.isc.org > Subject: Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied > >> Would I be doing a bad thing by using fail2ban to block these IPs? > > That’s the question that only you can answer. The IP addresses are > not attacker’s but victim’s and you would

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-15 Thread Reindl Harald
er 15, 2021 7:18 AM To: Danilo Godec Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied Would I be doing a bad thing by using fail2ban to block these IPs? That’s the question that only you can answer. The IP addresses are not attacker’s but victim’s and

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-15 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 12:51:19 +0100 Danilo Godec via bind-users wrote: [...] > 15-Dec-2021 00:01:42.127 security: info: client @0x7f96180b3fe0 > 45.145.227.33#11092 (.): view outside: query (cache) './ANY/IN' denied This can be common noise you'll see if any external source can get queries to you

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.12.21 um 15:01 schrieb John Kristoff: Would I be doing a bad thing by using fail2ban to block these IPs? This might be dangerous. If someone spoofs a well formed UDP query that does what the above does and you block it, what if the spoofed source is something you don't want blocked?

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-15 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users
On 12/15/21 4:51 AM, Danilo Godec via bind-users wrote: Hello, Hi, I'm noticing some unusual activity where 48 external IPs generated over 2M queries that have all been denied (just today): 15-Dec-2021 00:01:42.023 security: info: client @0x7f96180b3fe0 194.48.217.14#59698 (.): view outsid

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-16 Thread Reindl Harald
st of all known ISP resolvers for endusers - game over, you blacklisted the world From: bind-users on behalf of Reindl Harald Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 8:44 AM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queri

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-16 Thread Andrew P .
_ From: bind-users on behalf of Reindl Harald Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 8:14 AM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied Am 16.12.21 um 14:04 schrieb Andrew P.: > So you're claiming that legitimate resolvers would st

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-16 Thread Reindl Harald
__ From: bind-users on behalf of Reindl Harald Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 8:14 AM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied Am 16.12.21 um 14:04 schrieb Andrew P.: So you're claiming that legitimate resolvers would st

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-16 Thread Ondřej Surý
lient > > don't get me wrong but you need to understand the implications of what you > are doing - for DOS attacks "Response Rate Limiting" was invented and for > non-DOS requests there isn't any valid reason to take action > >> ________________

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-16 Thread Reindl Harald
_ From: bind-users on behalf of Reindl Harald Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2021 8:14 AM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied Am 16.12.21 um 14:04 schrieb Andrew P.: So you're claiming that legitimate resolvers would

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-16 Thread Andrew P .
Reindl Harald writes: Am 16.12.21 um 14:22 schrieb Andrew P.: >> You don't understand what kind of blacklist I want; I want to blacklist the >> domain name >> being asked for, so I don't answer for it. I'm not looking to blacklist >> forged IP addresses >> of requestors (since we all know crimin

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
You don't understand what kind of blacklist I want; I want to blacklist the domain name being asked for, so I don't answer for it. I'm not looking to blacklist forged IP addresses of requestors (since we all know criminals don't use their own identities; they use the identities of innocent byst

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.12.21 um 14:56 schrieb Andrew P.: Reindl Harald writes: Am 16.12.21 um 14:22 schrieb Andrew P.: You don't understand what kind of blacklist I want; I want to blacklist the domain name being asked for, so I don't answer for it. I'm not looking to blacklist forged IP addresses of reque

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-16 Thread Andrew P .
Reindl Harald writes: >Am 16.12.21 um 14:56 schrieb Andrew P.: >> Reindl Harald writes: >> Am 16.12.21 um 14:22 schrieb Andrew P.: You don't understand what kind of blacklist I want; I want to blacklist the domain name being asked for, so I don't answer for it. I'm not looking to

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.12.21 um 15:29 schrieb Andrew P.: Reindl Harald writes: Am 16.12.21 um 14:56 schrieb Andrew P.: Reindl Harald writes: Am 16.12.21 um 14:22 schrieb Andrew P.: You don't understand what kind of blacklist I want; I want to blacklist the domain name being asked for, so I don't answer f

Re: Millions of './ANY/IN' queries denied

2021-12-17 Thread Tony Finch
Ondřej Surý wrote: > FTR RRL will not help on this case. There’s no difference between > response with TC and response with REFUSED. Yes and no :-) RRL uses a mixture of "slip" (i.e. truncation) and dropping responses, so it will attenuate REFUSED spam. (The documentatin is not very clear about