Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-07-12 Thread Thomas Sturm
Please also note that the below test is successful with a prefetch value of 0. To me this really looks like prefetching forgets to update RRSIGs. Thomas > On 06.07.2016, at 15:29, Thomas Sturm wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > I may have found another (possibly related?) bug: > > I noticed that when

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-07-06 Thread Thomas Sturm
Hi Mark, I may have found another (possibly related?) bug: I noticed that when validating a signed zone using delv by querying a local BIND caching server (v9.10.3-P4), it sometimes suddenly alerts "no valid RRSIG”. Indeed, when querying “dig ds mydomain +dnssec", it returns the DS records, bu

RE: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-07-04 Thread Ondřej Holas
nged handling of "just expiring" records in 9.10.4 [RT #41687]. Brgds, Ondrej -Original Message- From: bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Mark Andrews Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 8:39 AM To: Thomas Sturm Cc: bind-us...@isc.or

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-19 Thread Mark Andrews
A fix for this is in review and should be in the next maintainance release. Mark In message <16a2cdfd-694d-444a-a760-17c9d7517...@open.ch>, Thomas Sturm writes: > > I am now able to reliably reproduce the behaviour with dig querying BIND > 9.10.4-P1 (not 9.9, apparently) with "prefetch 0”: > >

RE: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-17 Thread Darcy Kevin (FCA)
, June 16, 2016 11:58 PM To: Phil Mayers; Daniel Stirnimann; bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: RE: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com >These were being blamed on "the network". Nothing can be blamed on the network without a client pcap. Otherwise it is just a bunch of hand wavi

RE: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-16 Thread John W. Blue
>These were being blamed on "the network". Nothing can be blamed on the network without a client pcap. Otherwise it is just a bunch of hand waving and hot air. Show me the money. ;) John ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-u

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-16 Thread Thomas Sturm
I am now able to reliably reproduce the behaviour with dig querying BIND 9.10.4-P1 (not 9.9, apparently) with "prefetch 0”: $ while true; do dig outlook.office365.com +noauthority +noadditional +tries=1 +retry=0; sleep 0.1; done Wait for 5 minutes, once the TTL expires, this should show about 5

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 16/06/16 13:01, Tony Finch wrote: Phil Mayers wrote: For what it's worth, I've been aggressively monitoring DNS resolution of outlook.office365.com from all four of our recursives, both A & , once a minute for the past 3 months. I wonder if you would notice more problems if your query

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 16/06/16 13:09, Thomas Sturm wrote: - with "prefetch 0” I am able to reproduce it every single time the TTL expires, even on quiet dev hosts - with “prefetch 2” I am able to reproduce it on loaded hosts only - with “prefetch 10” I am NOT able to reproduce it at all Hmm. I thought prefetch

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-16 Thread Thomas Sturm
> If you're running bind 9.10, then bind 9.10 doing prefetch is a normal > use-case. > > You make a good point that a prefetch-enabled resolver might show different > behaviour to a non-prefetch one. But we've been on prefetch-enabled resolvers > for the whole length of our o365 rollout IIRC,

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 16/06/16 13:01, Daniel Stirnimann wrote: (This was as part of "proving" that various O365 issues were client side, not network-triggered) If a resolver cannot resolve outlook.office365.com why should this be a client side issue? Or do you mean the resolver is the client for upstream queries?

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 16/06/16 12:58, Reindl Harald wrote: hence you can't compare it with normal usecases since bind 9.10 does prefetch which mask any upstream problem, especially TTL when you query it all the time If you're running bind 9.10, then bind 9.10 doing prefetch is a normal use-case. You make a go

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-16 Thread Tony Finch
Phil Mayers wrote: > > For what it's worth, I've been aggressively monitoring DNS resolution of > outlook.office365.com from all four of our recursives, both A & , once a > minute for the past 3 months. I wonder if you would notice more problems if your query interval is greater than the TTL.

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 16/06/16 12:15, Tony Finch wrote: Thomas Sturm wrote: We are experiencing strange intermittent issues when resolving outlook.office365.com, but also with other domains like e.g. amazonaws.com or snort.org. Based on recent discussions on the mailop list For what it's worth, I've been agg

Re: Issues resolving outlook.office365.com

2016-06-16 Thread Tony Finch
Thomas Sturm wrote: > > We are experiencing strange intermittent issues when resolving > outlook.office365.com, but also with other domains like e.g. > amazonaws.com or snort.org. Based on recent discussions on the mailop list (https://chilli.nosignal.org/mailman/listinfo/mailop) the problem seem