Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-28 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Mark Andrews wrote: >> 0.86.80.98 14051 > > So who isn't doing even loose URPF? > 0/8 is totally bogus and is a attack directed at you. Well, if you do a tracert to granite.ab.ca you can see my upstream provider. I was wondering what that 0 was doing there. Tony -- Tony Toews

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , "Tony Toews [MVP]" wri tes: > "Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: > > >FWIW In the last 28 hours I have the following alleged IP addresses and coun > t in my > >log file. > > > >Real lookups 1665 > >204.15.80.50 4 > >3.217.28.226 1144 > >4.57.246.146 9541 > >6.9.16.171 577 > >63.217.28.226

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-28 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: >FWIW In the last 28 hours I have the following alleged IP addresses and count >in my >log file. > >Real lookups 1665 >204.15.80.50 4 >3.217.28.226 1144 >4.57.246.146 9541 >6.9.16.171 577 >63.217.28.226 1463 >64.57.246.146 35163 >65.173.218.96 1 >67.192.1

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-28 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
Sorry remembered wrong, it's not free. But not that expensive either. Yeah now I remember, I browsed for a free firewall for server platform for days, but didn't find any. But have been very happy with the Net Firewall. Jukka "Tony Toews [MVP]" kirjoitti viestissä:... "Jukka Pakkanen"

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-27 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
"Jukka Pakkanen" wrote: >There are many free third party firewall packages that can be run in Window= >s = > >2003 Server, we use the Net Firewall. Do you have a URL? I found http://www.ntkernel.com/w&p.php?id=18 but it's not free. I'm also going to ask my fellow MVPs as well. Tony -- Tony T

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-27 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: >26-Jan-2009 14:28:24.004 client 76.9.16.171#23101: query: . IN NS + >26-Jan-2009 14:28:58.254 client 63.217.28.226#28035: query: . IN NS + >26-Jan-2009 14:29:00.691 client 63.217.28.226#35549: query: . IN NS + >26-Jan-2009 14:29:26.332 client 76.9.16.171#19817: query: .

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-27 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:50:51AM +0100, Jan Buchholz <96de...@googlemail.com> wrote a message of 38 lines which said: > i think disable queries at the root-zone for not internal networks > is another answer for this problem . Good practices about this attack (with specific BIND advice) is al

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-27 Thread Jan Buchholz
Hallo, i think disable queries at the root-zone for not internal networks is another answer for this problem . --- Jan 2009/1/27, Jukka Pakkanen : > > "Tony Toews [MVP]" kirjoitti > viestissä:... >> Noel Butler wrote: >> >> >Surely windows can block access to an inbound IP request from "some I

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-27 Thread Jukka Pakkanen
"Tony Toews [MVP]" kirjoitti viestissä:... Noel Butler wrote: >Surely windows can block access to an inbound IP request from "some IP" >to local udp port 53 ? Not the firewall software built into Windows 2003 Server. >If not, you know what my next reply will be don't you :) Yeah, well swi

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On 26-Jan-2009, at 23:03, Tony Toews [MVP] wrote: Ah, I think I see what is happening here. Searching at the below article for 63.217.28.226 http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/09/01/24/0113210.shtml shows a reply stating: "The problem seems to kick in for DNS servers that arent rejecting th

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: >As far as I can tell from the same 5 or 20 IP addresses. I haven't seen these >lines >before. When I analyzed todays log I got three IP address. 204.15.80.50 might be smtp9.soma.ironport.com 63.217.28.226 might be Network solutions according to the below SlashDot a

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 13:16, Tony Toews [MVP] wrote: > Noel Butler wrote: > > >Surely windows can block access to an inbound IP request from "some IP" > >to local udp port 53 ? > > Not the firewall software built into Windows 2003 Server. > Gawd... > >If not, you know what my next reply wi

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Mark Andrews wrote: >> It looks like the server is replying with a refused statement. The following >> are the >> two lines that WireShark captured. >> >> Standard query NS >> Standard query response, refused > > Good. The attacker is trying to you as a amplifier and > that is no

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Noel Butler wrote: >Surely windows can block access to an inbound IP request from "some IP" >to local udp port 53 ? Not the firewall software built into Windows 2003 Server. >If not, you know what my next reply will be don't you :) Yeah, well switching to Linux ain't gonna happen. My friend

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , "Tony Toews [MVP]" wri tes: > "Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: > > >>> How do I know I'm not answering those? > >>> > >>Since your on win, I can't help you, but whatever your packet monitor > >>is, see if you are replying to their requests, even with a REFUSED > >>response. > > It looks

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 12:35, Tony Toews [MVP] wrote: > "Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: > > >>> How do I know I'm not answering those? > >>> > >>Since your on win, I can't help you, but whatever your packet monitor > >>is, see if you are replying to their requests, even with a REFUSED > >>response. >

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: >>> I doubt the current firewall, the one built into Windows 2003 Server, is >>> capable of >>> blocking specific IP addresses but I'll check. >> >>In that case maybe on your router? Apply a inbound request from them on >>port 53 udp only, that way you wont affect real

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: >>> How do I know I'm not answering those? >>> >>Since your on win, I can't help you, but whatever your packet monitor >>is, see if you are replying to their requests, even with a REFUSED >>response. It looks like the server is replying with a refused statement. The f

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Barry Margolin writes: > In article , > Mark Andrews wrote: > > > In message , "Tony Toews [MVP]" > > > wri > > tes: > > > Gregory Hicks wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> 2) What are they? > > > > > > > >They look like the DDoS being discussed on the NANOG list. > > > > > > > >Have

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Barry Margolin writes: > In article , > "Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: > > > Gregory Hicks wrote: > > > > > > >> 2) What are they? > > > > > >They look like the DDoS being discussed on the NANOG list. > > > > > >Have you implemented BCP38? If not, why not... > > > > I have no idea

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Noel Butler wrote: >> How do I know I'm not answering those? >> > >Since your on win, I can't help you, but whatever your packet monitor >is, see if you are replying to their requests, even with a REFUSED >response. Thanks, I'll take a look using WireShark. >> >It's a forged request asking you

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: >I just noticed that our small scale Bind server as a lot of the following >lines. Just to clarify things. We're running a personal scale IIS, DNS and email server on Windows 2003 Server with about 20 or so domains on a friends DSL connection. To give you an idea

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Barry Margolin wrote: >> >Have you implemented BCP38? If not, why not... >> >> I have no idea what BCP38 is and how I can implement that. Would you be so >> kind as >> to supply links relevant to Windows 2003 Server? > >BCP38 is not something you implement, it's something that has to be >imp

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Barry Margolin
In article , Mark Andrews wrote: > In message , "Tony Toews [MVP]" > wri > tes: > > Gregory Hicks wrote: > > > > > > >> 2) What are they? > > > > > >They look like the DDoS being discussed on the NANOG list. > > > > > >Have you implemented BCP38? If not, why not... > > > > I have no idea w

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Barry Margolin
In article , "Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote: > Gregory Hicks wrote: > > > >> 2) What are they? > > > >They look like the DDoS being discussed on the NANOG list. > > > >Have you implemented BCP38? If not, why not... > > I have no idea what BCP38 is and how I can implement that. Would you be so >

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , "Tony Toews [MVP]" wri tes: > Gregory Hicks wrote: > > > >> 2) What are they? > > > >They look like the DDoS being discussed on the NANOG list. > > > >Have you implemented BCP38? If not, why not... > > I have no idea what BCP38 is and how I can implement that. http://www

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Noel Butler
Hi Tony, On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 09:35, Tony Toews [MVP] wrote: > Noel Butler wrote: > > >This is not your config, so long as you are not answering thats fine. > > How do I know I'm not answering those? > Since your on win, I can't help you, but whatever your packet monitor is, see if you are

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Noel Butler wrote: >This is not your config, so long as you are not answering thats fine. How do I know I'm not answering those? >It's a forged request asking you to participate in a DDoS thats been >going on since last Wedensday, >it's best if you firewall off your replies to those IP's so you

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Gregory Hicks wrote: >> 2) What are they? > >They look like the DDoS being discussed on the NANOG list. > >Have you implemented BCP38? If not, why not... I have no idea what BCP38 is and how I can implement that. Would you be so kind as to supply links relevant to Windows 2003 Server? Thank

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 07:45, Tony Toews [MVP] wrote: > Folks > > Warning - I know just enough about Bind to be dangerous. Which is why I'm > asking. > > I just noticed that our small scale Bind server as a lot of the following > lines. > > 26-Jan-2009 14:28:24.004 client 76.9.16.171#23101:

Re: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Gregory Hicks
> To: comp-protocols-dns-b...@isc.org > From: "Tony Toews [MVP]" > Subject: What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"? > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:45:18 GMT > > Folks > > Warning - I know just enough about Bind to be dangero

What are these entries in the log file - " query: . IN NS +"?

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Toews [MVP]
Folks Warning - I know just enough about Bind to be dangerous. Which is why I'm asking. I just noticed that our small scale Bind server as a lot of the following lines. 26-Jan-2009 14:28:24.004 client 76.9.16.171#23101: query: . IN NS + 26-Jan-2009 14:28:58.254 client 63.217.28.226#28035: que