Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-12-18 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 Brian J. Murrell wrote: I am going to bug report with said distro also as I hate varying from the working set because it just causes possible future problems trying to bug report with them. you are not using the version we support, bla, bla, bla. So in the end

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-24 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Jeremy C. Reed jreed at isc.org writes: I was reading it all along, but could never reproduce. Given the new information I have, I'll hazard to guess that you were trying to reproduce with something newer than 9.7.0-P2. I thought it was a temporary issue. I see your new bug report.

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-23 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Casey Deccio casey at deccio.net writes: I still don't have the answer to this. Fair enough. I was just looking for clarification on your previous statements. Perhaps a BIND developer may have better insight into the log messages and what may be going on. Yeah, I was hoping to have

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-23 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Yeah, I was hoping to have caught the attention of a BIND developer here with all of this by now. Perhaps they just don't hang out here. Maybe I will try to find out where to ask questions that they might see. I was reading it all along, but

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-22 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Casey Deccio casey at deccio.net writes: After a review of NSEC3 showed that this particular behavior is expected because org has been signed using NSEC3 with the opt-out bit set. I'm afraid I'm getting a bit lost due to my real lack of understanding of the details of DNSSEC. I wish I had

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-15 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Brian J. Murrell brian at interlinx.bc.ca writes: Casey Deccio casey at deccio.net writes: Do you get a NOERROR response with the AD bit set? Yup: ... Was any of that information I posted in the previous message useful? If not, I'd be happy to gather some more.

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-10 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Casey Deccio casey at deccio.net writes: On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Brian J. Murrell brian at interlinx.bc.ca wrote: $ dig @linux -p 1053 41.70.55.206.sa-trusted.bondedsender.org txt Doh! I forgot the +dnssec. What happens when you run the following queries: dig +dnssec @linux -p

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-09 Thread Brian J . Murrell
, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;41.70.55.206.sa-trusted.bondedsender.org. IN TXT ;; Query time: 43 msec ;; SERVER: 10.75.22.3#1053(10.75.22.3) ;; WHEN: Tue Nov 9 23:08:39 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 58 And the syslog entry: Nov 9 23:08:39 linux named[11040]: error (broken trust

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-09 Thread Casey Deccio
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Brian J. Murrell br...@interlinx.bc.ca wrote: The only written to that file when one of those broken chain lookups happen is: dnssec: validating @0x2295e9b0: 41.70.55.206.sa-trusted.bondedsender.org TXT: starting dnssec: validating @0x2295e9b0:

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-03 Thread Brian J . Murrell
, but the chain does not extend properly. How does a resolver come to this expectation? What is happening that makes this situation any different than an insecure delegation? If we take one of the examples from my original post: named error (broken trust chain) resolving '133.168.163.66.sa

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-03 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 11:44:18AM +, Brian J. Murrell br...@interlinx.bc.ca wrote a message of 46 lines which said: named error (broken trust chain) resolving '133.168.163.66.sa- trusted.bondedsender.org/TXT/IN': 173.45.100.146#53 Where/why does it break? Who's is breaking it? I

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-03 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzmeyer at nic.fr writes: Indeed. Your analysis seems right. May be you have somewhere another trust anchor (for DLV at ISC or directly for bondedsender.org?) Hrm. I'm not sure TBH. I know I didn't install any trust anchor specifically for bondedsender.org, but I do

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-03 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 04:00:48PM +, Brian J. Murrell br...@interlinx.bc.ca wrote a message of 19 lines which said: Another possibility: sa-trusted.bondedsender.org is badly lame (none of the name servers reply), so it may trigger a bad error message from BIND. Both s0.rpdns.net.

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-03 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzmeyer at nic.fr writes: They are not name servers of sa-trusted.bondedsender.org: Damn. Yes, you are correct. I forgot it was sa-trusted.bondedsender.org. in our example and stopped at bondedsender.org. However going that one more sub- domain deeper and testing

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-03 Thread Casey Deccio
or are insufficient to prove that no DS records exist for an insecure delegation. If DS RRs do exist, but none correspond to any self-signing DNSKEYs in the child zone. If DNSKEYs are not returned by the resolver. named error (broken trust chain) resolving '133.168.163.66.sa

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-03 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Casey Deccio casey at deccio.net writes: This can happen in a number of different ways: If any RRSIGs in the chain of trust are bogus, expired, or missing. If NSEC/NSEC3 records are not provided or are insufficient to prove that no DS records exist for an insecure delegation. If DS RRs

error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-02 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Since enabling DNSSEC on my resolving server I have been seeing various instances of the following sort of messages: named error (broken trust chain) resolving '133.168.163.66.sa- trusted.bondedsender.org/TXT/IN': 173.45.100.146#53 named error (broken trust chain) resolving '173.65.147.69

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-02 Thread Alan Clegg
On 11/2/2010 8:11 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Since enabling DNSSEC on my resolving server I have been seeing various instances of the following sort of messages: named error (broken trust chain) resolving '133.168.163.66.sa- trusted.bondedsender.org/TXT/IN': 173.45.100.146#53

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-02 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Alan Clegg aclegg at isc.org writes: Hi Alan, There isn't a chain of signed DS records that lead from a trust anchor to the thing that you are trying to resolve. I guess I'm going to have to learn a bit more about DNSSEC in order to parse that. :-) Are there any good tutorials on the

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-02 Thread Alan Clegg
On 11/2/2010 8:36 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Alan Clegg aclegg at isc.org writes: Hi Alan, There isn't a chain of signed DS records that lead from a trust anchor to the thing that you are trying to resolve. I guess I'm going to have to learn a bit more about DNSSEC in order to parse

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-02 Thread Brian J . Murrell
Alan Clegg aclegg at isc.org writes: On 11/2/2010 8:11 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: named error (broken trust chain) resolving '133.168.163.66.sa- trusted.bondedsender.org/TXT/IN': 173.45.100.146#53 There isn't a chain of signed DS records that lead from a trust anchor to the thing

Re: error (broken trust chain) resolving

2010-11-02 Thread Casey Deccio
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Brian J. Murrell br...@interlinx.bc.ca wrote: Alan Clegg aclegg at isc.org writes: On 11/2/2010 8:11 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: named error (broken trust chain) resolving '133.168.163.66.sa- trusted.bondedsender.org/TXT/IN': 173.45.100.146#53