Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:21:35AM +0100, Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.com wrote a message of 88 lines which said: I believed I was on bind mailing list, a mailing list is where you usually get some help... isn't it ? You're right, it's a shame. Ask immediately for a refund, both

Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:35:31AM +0100, Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.com wrote a message of 80 lines which said: I'll temporray block the ip on my firewall Very bad idea, since it is forged. You do exactly what the attacker wanted you to do. The proper thing to do is:

Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread Thomas Manson
Well... I'll temporray block the ip on my firewall Very bad idea, since it is forged. You do exactly what the attacker wanted you to do. The proper thing to do is: https://www.dns-oarc.net/oarc/articles/upward-referrals-considered-harmful this is kind of response I expect : an answer of

Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread David Ford
An intelligently designed firewall rule that drops the incoming requests isn't doing exactly what the attacker wants. It's the opposite. The main effect of forged lookups is a response flood. And so it is also intended to flood the victim with overwhelming amounts of DNS responses. It, like any

RE: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread Matthew Huff
I've been aware of this problem since it first came up on this and nanog's list, but I'm having some configuration issues trying to make the upward referrel be refused. I'm running bind-9.6.0P1, but I'm still seeing the NS queries being answered in the log: 11-Feb-2009 09:34:25.489 queries:

RE: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread David Forrest
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Matthew Huff wrote: I've been aware of this problem since it first came up on this and nanog's list, but I'm having some configuration issues trying to make the upward referrel be refused. I'm running bind-9.6.0P1, but I'm still seeing the NS queries being answered in the

RE: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-11 Thread Matthew Huff
Thanks to David Forest, I realize now that the query IS being refused, however nothing in the bind log shows the refusal. Is there anyway to see that in the log? Matthew Huff   | One Manhattanville Rd OTA Management LLC | Purchase, NY 10577 http://www.ox.com | Phone: 914-460-4039 aim:

loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Manson
Hi, I can see in my secondary DNS server a lot of logs with query(cache) denied from the same ip. I've traceroute one of them which seems to be a russian computer. * * 17 ns1.orlan-net.ru (195.68.176.4) 136.563 ms * * Feb 11 00:21:49 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#59934: query

Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews
Please go read the list achives. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: mark_andr...@isc.org ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org

Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message f43eb7e60902101552l524787b1t72fcc821437af...@mail.gmail.com, Thoma s Manson writes: The subject matter has been discussed in lots of detail over the last month. Go read the archives of the mailing list. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St.,

Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Manson
That's some awesome answer... (did you get helped to elaborate it?) equivalent : google is your friend, search the RFCs Then... read the list archives... I guess I can spend the next ten years if I read it from the beginning Could you give any clue of what to look for ? I believed I was on

Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message f43eb7e60902101621y66133c17lc46a1df451f1b...@mail.gmail.com, Thoma s Manson writes: --00163646c41c20dc350462999600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's some awesome answer... (did you get helped to elaborate it?) equivalent : google is

Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Manson
someone answers me, you could just have say search reflector DoS attack in the archive list, this would have narrow down a lot my research. I'll temporray block the ip on my firewall On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:21, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote: In message