Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] More thoughts on NOINPUT safety

2019-03-14 Thread Christian Decker via bitcoin-dev
Anthony Towns writes: > I'm thinking of tagged outputs as "taproot plus" (ie, plus noinput), > so if you used a tagged output, you could do everything normal taproot > address could, but also do noinput sigs for them. > > So you might have: > >funding tx -> cooperative claim > >funding tx

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Removal of reject network messages from Bitcoin Core (BIP61)

2019-03-14 Thread Aymeric Vitte via bitcoin-dev
Apparently I don't have the same experience than others here, what I encountered is no reject message received for wrong txs, but from what I understand here it's not unusual to receive reject message for valid txs, then I don't see how it can be really helpful/relied, given also that the reject

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] More thoughts on NOINPUT safety

2019-03-14 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning aj, > > Trying to maximise privacy there has the disadvantage that you have to > do a new signature for every in-flight HTLC every time you update the > state, which could be a lot of signatures for very active channels. If I remember accurately this is already true for current

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] More thoughts on NOINPUT safety

2019-03-14 Thread Anthony Towns via bitcoin-dev
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 05:22:59AM +, ZmnSCPxj via Lightning-dev wrote: > When reading through your original post I saw you mentioned something about > output tagging somehow conflicting with Taproot, so I assumed Taproot is not > useable in this case. I'm thinking of tagged outputs as

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] More thoughts on NOINPUT safety

2019-03-14 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning aj, When reading through your original post I saw you mentioned something about output tagging somehow conflicting with Taproot, so I assumed Taproot is not useable in this case. However, it is probably more likely that I simply misunderstood what you said, so if you can