Re: [bitcoin-dev] Statechain implementations

2020-03-27 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Bob, > Big picture, it seems to me this idea is workable and very interesting. I see > three likely enhancements that will be necessary or desirable: > 1. Atomic swap of multiple UTXOs, and binary decomposition of value in lots > 2. Key exchange ("addresses") to facilitate a secure

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Statechain implementations

2020-03-27 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Ruben, > >The broadcasting of the kickoff simply means that the first stage cannot be > >easily changed > > I see what you're saying. Yeah, it does ruin the stages. If the kickoff tx > hits the chain, you'd probably just want to "refresh" the UTXO by agreeing > with the

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-27 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Andrew, > Here's a better explanation than I could write of the phenomenon I'm talking > about: > > > As a thought experiment, let’s consider aquaculture (fish farming) in a > > lake. > > Imagine a lake with a thousand identical fish farms owned by a thousand > > competing

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Statechain implementations

2020-03-27 Thread Bob McElrath via bitcoin-dev
Big picture, it seems to me this idea is workable and very interesting. I see three likely enhancements that will be necessary or desirable: 1. Atomic swap of multiple UTXOs, and binary decomposition of value in lots 2. Key exchange ("addresses") to facilitate a secure comms path from

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Statechain implementations

2020-03-27 Thread Ruben Somsen via bitcoin-dev
Hi ZmnSCPxj, I appreciate the input. >Any standardness issue can be fixed by embedding it in a P2WSH / P2SH, you can use an `OP_TRUE` `redeemScript`, for instance. Good point. I guess the conversation I recall reading must have been about avoiding p2sh in order to lower the tx size. >broadcast

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block solving slowdown question/poll

2020-03-27 Thread Andrew Cann via bitcoin-dev
> To change the supply is far too big a change. It would also be a big change if bitcoin became unusable due to mining profits dropping low enough for a state actor with a warehouse full of asics to mount a 51% attack and mine empty blocks all day. > What happens if I own a few million Bitcoin