Re: [bitcoin-dev] A Comparison Of LN and Drivechain Security In The Presence Of 51% Attackers

2022-02-25 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Paul, > I don't think I can stop people from being ignorant about Drivechain. But I > can at least allow the Drivechain-knowledgable to identify each other. > > So here below, I present a little "quiz". If you can answer all of these > questions, then you basically understand

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Recursive covenant opposition, or the absence thereof, was Re: TXHASH + CHECKSIGFROMSTACKVERIFY in lieu of CTV and ANYPREVOUT

2022-02-25 Thread Anthony Towns via bitcoin-dev
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 12:03:32PM +, ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev wrote: > > > Logically, if the construct is general enough to form Drivechains, and > > > we rejected Drivechains, we should also reject the general construct. > > Not providing X because it can only be used for E, may generalise

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Draft-BIP: Ordinal Numbers

2022-02-25 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
> El Gamal commitments, for example, are perfectly binding but only computationally hiding. That's very interesting. I stand corrected in that respect. Thanks for the information Adam! On Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 05:17 AdamISZ wrote: > > I really don't see a world where bitcoin goes that route.

Re: [bitcoin-dev] OP_RETURN inside TapScript

2022-02-25 Thread Zac Greenwood via bitcoin-dev
Hi ZmnSCPxj, > Either you consume the entire UTXO (take away the "U" from the "UTXO") completely and in full, or you do not touch the UTXO Ok, so enabling spending a UTXO partly would be a significant departure from the systems’ design philosophy. I have been unclear about the fee part. In my

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Draft-BIP: Ordinal Numbers

2022-02-25 Thread AdamISZ via bitcoin-dev
> I really don't see a world where bitcoin goes that route. Hiding coin amounts > would make it impossible to audit the blockchain and verify that there hasn't > been inflation and the emission schedule is on schedule. It would inherently > remove unconditional soundness from bitcoin and

Re: [bitcoin-dev] OP_RETURN inside TapScript

2022-02-25 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Zac, > Hi ZmnSCPxj, > > To me it seems that more space can be saved. > > The data-“transaction” need not specify any output. The network could > subtract the fee amount of the transaction directly from the specified UTXO. That is not how UTXO systems like Bitcoin work. Either you

Re: [bitcoin-dev] OP_RETURN inside TapScript

2022-02-25 Thread Zac Greenwood via bitcoin-dev
Hi ZmnSCPxj, To me it seems that more space can be saved. The data-“transaction” need not specify any output. The network could subtract the fee amount of the transaction directly from the specified UTXO. A fee also need not to be specified. It can be calculated in advance both by the network