Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal - Address Paste Improvement

2018-12-01 Thread James MacWhyte via bitcoin-dev
I liked the cheekiness of your summary, Adam ;) I'm not sure why this needs to be a BIP. It is a UX detail--not really related to bitcoin protocol or procedures. I wouldn't even call it a description of best practices, since every product's use case is going to be different. If you think there

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal - Address Paste Improvement

2018-12-01 Thread Adam Ficsor via bitcoin-dev
If this needs to be a BIP or not, that is up to this list to decide, I will not be pushy abut it. We simply encountered a well defined and common issue and we took the time to work out and specify our solution, so it may come in handy for other developers encountering this same issue. We can argue

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal - Address Paste Improvement

2018-11-11 Thread Adam Ficsor via bitcoin-dev
Thank you for all your comments. To sum up: - There were no comments related to the implementation details. - There are concerns about this may incentivize users to use copypaste functionality extensively. - A counter argument was made that crypto hijackers use the clipboard, because that is the

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal - Address Paste Improvement

2018-11-08 Thread Dmitry Petukhov via bitcoin-dev
> > Do you know any reasonably convenient mechanism for end user to > > transfer an address from, say, a web page to the wallet address > > input field ? > > - QR code scanning of a Bitcoin URI > - On Android: A "bitcoin:" URI intent or a BIP70 payment message > intent > - On desktop OSes

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal - Address Paste Improvement

2018-11-08 Thread Moral Agent via bitcoin-dev
>The problem will be to come up with an address authentication procedure that will be convenient for users and widely supported, as a result. You could locally hash the destination address and from the hash derive a BIP39 style list of 12 words for visual comparison. I would advise against using

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal - Address Paste Improvement

2018-11-08 Thread Jeffrey Paul via bitcoin-dev
> On Nov 7, 2018, at 13:28, Andreas Schildbach via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > Copying addresses to the clipboard should be discouraged, rather than > supported. > > It is an inherently insecure mechanism. Regardless of the OS used, any > application can monitor the clipboard for Bitcoin

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal - Address Paste Improvement

2018-11-08 Thread Andreas Schildbach via bitcoin-dev
On 08/11/2018 09.11, Dmitry Petukhov via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> Copying addresses to the clipboard should be discouraged, rather than >> supported. > > Do you know any reasonably convenient mechanism for end user to > transfer an address from, say, a web page to the wallet address > input field ?

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal - Address Paste Improvement

2018-11-08 Thread Dmitry Petukhov via bitcoin-dev
> Copying addresses to the clipboard should be discouraged, rather than > supported. Do you know any reasonably convenient mechanism for end user to transfer an address from, say, a web page to the wallet address input field ? The clipboard is just a low-hanging fruit for malware, anyway. It

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal - Address Paste Improvement

2018-11-07 Thread Andreas Schildbach via bitcoin-dev
Copying addresses to the clipboard should be discouraged, rather than supported. It is an inherently insecure mechanism. Regardless of the OS used, any application can monitor the clipboard for Bitcoin addresses and replace any address with their own, usually without any specific permission or

[bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal - Address Paste Improvement

2018-11-07 Thread Adam Ficsor via bitcoin-dev
BIP: ? Layer: Applications Title: Address Paste Improvement Author: nopara73 , David Molnar < molnardavi...@gmail.com> Type: Standard Track Created: 2018-11-07 Abstract. End-users often copy-paste addresses. This BIP aims to facilitate the user experience regarding this process. Motivation. Some