Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread odinn via bitcoin-dev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bitcoin will be neutered and die if the big Chinese mining pools utilize XT. Specifically the text of @JihanWu's tweet was, "I support increasing the block size. @BITMAINtech 's AntPool will be prepared to switch to XT, IF we see majority has switche

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Will Madden via bitcoin-dev
I’m replying all just because my point was changed in your response. > As a protocol Bitcoin could support millions of full nodes. What you > talking about is the number of shareholders. But these are poorly > determined by the block size. The number of shareholders is determined > by many paramet

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev
Am 21.08.2015 um 15:34 schrieb Will Madden: > Keeping the block size at 1mb restricts the number of active users of bitcoin > to around 100,000 people transacting twice a day on blockchain. > BItcoin is a protocol. Protocols are successful because of their network > effect. Capping the block

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev
My UX skills are lacking a bit. You can edit all your thoughts about each BIP, HTML is accepted, so you can link to other posts you made somewhere else. When you click on a cell in the grid, it forward you to the page that the dev edited for this BIP. This website is not only to say "approve", "di

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Will Madden via bitcoin-dev
Keeping the block size at 1mb restricts the number of active users of bitcoin to around 100,000 people transacting twice a day on blockchain. BItcoin is a protocol. Protocols are successful because of their network effect. Capping the block size freezes bitcoin’s network effect, limits users

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev
Yifu Guo via bitcoin-dev: > One thing is for sure though, not increasing the blocksize is not an option. Why not? The blocksize increase eliminates the pressure to seek durable solutions. But it will turn out differently. Other than we all think. I really can not imagine that a 20-year plan will

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Yifu Guo via bitcoin-dev
accordingly to public release[1], They. 1. agreed that blocksize increase is needed. 2. opposed original 20mb, suggest 8mb instead as it is more technically reasonable. 3. do not want blocksize to change in the "short term future" ( direct translation. ) and in the document states. "after discussi

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Yifu Guo via bitcoin-dev wrote: > I like the intend of this attempt to bring more clarity to the blocksize > debate, however it would be more help to make this a information site about > the current outstanding BIPs and summarize their differences rather than > vo

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Yifu Guo via bitcoin-dev
I like the intend of this attempt to bring more clarity to the blocksize debate, however it would be more help to make this a information site about the current outstanding BIPs and summarize their differences rather than voting mechanism. (ofcourse the author of the BIPs would "vote" for their ow

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 21 August 2015 02:31:51 GMT-07:00, Btc Drak wrote: >On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev > wrote: >> What might be valuable is to ask devs to explain what their threat >models are, what should be at the root of their thi

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 21 August 2015 02:09:06 GMT-07:00, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev wrote: >The site could be extended to include major stakeholders too like >major service providers (think exchanges, wallet providers etc) and >mining pools. Given the strong consens

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote: > What might be valuable is to ask devs to explain what their threat models > are, what should be at the root of their thinking about the blocksize. That's exactly what the "Technical Opinion" column is for.

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 20 August 2015 21:45:23 GMT-07:00, Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev wrote: >I think this is a bit well, sad, at the moment-- a basic principle in >sound decision making is that one should try to withhold judgement >until after the analysis and

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-21 Thread Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Decision making is not the goal of this site, it is only a way to see > various pros and cons of various devs on various proposals in a single > place. > This is for the community to have a coherent view about what you are ta

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-20 Thread Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev
Decision making is not the goal of this site, it is only a way to see various pros and cons of various devs on various proposals in a single place. This is for the community to have a coherent view about what you are talking about now spread into reddit/mailing/forums. If you did not analyzed a pr

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:57 AM, Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev wrote: > I created a small website which show a chart of your approvals about various > BIPs (which you must fill by yourself with a signed pgp message) > For each BIP, you can fill if you approve or not, and give comments. (HTML > ac

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-20 Thread Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev
I'm not against it (mostly active committers as you are), my challenge is getting the PGP keys scattered all over the place. If you want put your thoughts, then let me know you pgp. On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Eric Lombrozo wrote: > I think everyone who has contributed any commits to the B

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-20 Thread Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev
I think everyone who has contributed any commits to the Bitcoin Core project should have a say in this. > On Aug 20, 2015, at 8:38 PM, Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev > > wrote: > > Thanks, btcdrak, I just added the column and you in the list. (loo

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-20 Thread Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev
Thanks, btcdrak, I just added the column and you in the list. (looks nicer) What I am calling "core devs" in the website is only "commit access people", should I rename this group ? I just want a way to improve readability of the website by grouping, I am open to all subjection on different way of

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-20 Thread Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev
I was looking at this site recently and it's not very clear that by clicking the name you get their opinion. I would make that a separate column stated, Technical Opinion. I think you need to include more of the developers/technical people, Adam Back, Mark Friedenback, Jorge Timons, (all of who ar

[bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-18 Thread Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev
I created a small website which show a chart of your approvals about various BIPs (which you must fill by yourself with a signed pgp message) For each BIP, you can fill if you approve or not, and give comments. (HTML accepted, so you can link stuff you your posts) It would help the community a lo