Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-24 Thread Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev
Yes, 75% seems fine - given that there is a already a wide deployment of segwit enforcing nodes This implementation is 100% compatible with a "UASF movement" since, if triggered, it essentially turns all supporting miners into equivalent BIP148 enforcers. This should allay any fears that this wo

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-24 Thread James Hilliard via bitcoin-dev
I would be fine with that, since segwit is widely deployed on the network already a lower activation threshold should be safe. On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Wang Chun <1240...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think we should go for 75%, same Litecoin. As I have said before, 95% > threshold is too high e

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-24 Thread Wang Chun via bitcoin-dev
I think we should go for 75%, same Litecoin. As I have said before, 95% threshold is too high even for unconventional soft forks. > 在 2017年5月24日,04:58,Andrew Chow via bitcoin-dev > 写道: > > Ah. I see now. It wasn't very clear to me that that is what will happen. > > Also, shouldn't the timeout

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-23 Thread Andrew Chow via bitcoin-dev
Ah. I see now. It wasn't very clear to me that that is what will happen. Also, shouldn't the timeout date be set for before the BIP141 timeout? Otherwise this could lock in but not have enough time for Segwit to be locked in. On 5/23/2017 4:42 PM, James Hilliard wrote: > That is incorrect, it is

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-23 Thread James Hilliard via bitcoin-dev
That is incorrect, it is compatible with the current segwit implementation because it triggers a mandatory signalling period that will activate segwit on existing nodes. On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Andrew Chow via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Hi James, > > From what I understand, this proposal is in

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-23 Thread Andrew Chow via bitcoin-dev
Hi James, >From what I understand, this proposal is incompatible with the current segwit implementation with regards to the NODE_WITNESS service bit. I believe it could cause network partitioning if the service bit is not changed. Andrew On 5/22/2017 6:40 PM, James Hilliard via bitcoin-dev wrot

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-23 Thread James Hilliard via bitcoin-dev
good an idea here due to the fairly short deployment timeline. > > Under the assumption that this is indeed compatible with the terms of the > Silbert agreement, we can presume the involved miners are willing to trust > eachother more than usual so such a short lock-in period should be &

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-23 Thread Kekcoin via bitcoin-dev
e Silbert agreement, we can presume the involved miners are willing to trust eachother more than usual so such a short lock-in period should be acceptable. Original Message ---- Subject: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment Local Time:

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-22 Thread Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev
Seems like it would work fine. But why would we expect 80pct to signal for the exact same implementation - when we can't get 40pct. It will be contingent on some HF code that allows him to continue using asicboost, or is too aggressive, or some other unreasonable request. On May 22, 2017 6:4

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-22 Thread Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev
Given the overwhelming support for SegWit across the ecosystem of businesses and users, this seems reasonable to me. On May 22, 2017 6:40:13 PM EDT, James Hilliard via bitcoin-dev wrote: >I would like to propose an implementation that accomplishes the first >part of the Barry Silbert proposal i

[bitcoin-dev] Reduced signalling threshold activation of existing segwit deployment

2017-05-22 Thread James Hilliard via bitcoin-dev
I would like to propose an implementation that accomplishes the first part of the Barry Silbert proposal independently from the second: "Activate Segregated Witness at an 80% threshold, signaling at bit 4" in a way that The goal here is to minimize chain split risk and network disruption while ma