Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-27 Thread alicexbt via bitcoin-dev
Hi Michael, > Doesn't sound to me that this was being "offered up for discussion". A week > from April 17th would have been Sunday April 24th (2 days ago). Readers of > this mailing list would have had no idea of these plans. I'm quoting 5 points from the blog post and putting some words in cap

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-26 Thread Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev
Jeremy > The reason there was not a mailing list post is because that's not a > committed plan, it was offered up for discussion to a public working group > for feedback as a potential plan. In the interests of posterity from your personal blog on April 17th [1]: "Within a week from today, you

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-26 Thread Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev
> > > I would comment on this point, but I'm not sure I'm "technical enough". I > have to admit: I've never played tennis. > You are technicial enough to read the nacks... everyone is: https://github.com/JeremyRubin/utxos.org/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-desc I can give a summary

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-26 Thread Jeremy Rubin via bitcoin-dev
Thanks, this is good feedback. I think the main thing then to add to forkd would be some sort of seed nodes set that you can peer with of other forkd runners? And have forkd be responsible for making sure you addnode them? wrt the generation of other problems, my understanding of the *summons rus

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-26 Thread Jeremy Rubin via bitcoin-dev
I'm a bit confused here. The "personal blog" in question was sent to this list with an archive link and you saw an replied to it. The proposal to make an alternative path hadn't gotten buy in sufficient from those iterating, and given the propensity of people to blow things out of proportion in th

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-26 Thread Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev
"The only 3 nacks"...I would not call that an accurate "collection of feedback". Feedback is always more positive when you laregely chose to ignore any negative feedback, isn't it? "Largely, the formal critiques of CTV (the 3 NACKs) are based on topics of whether or not to swing the racquet, not i

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-26 Thread Melvin Carvalho via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 7:33 PM Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > If the next few weeks go how I fear they will it could get messy. If you > care about Bitcoin's consensus rules I'd request you pay attention so you > can make an informed view on what

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-26 Thread Anthony Towns via bitcoin-dev
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:48:20PM -0700, Jeremy Rubin via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Further, you're representing the state of affairs as if there's a great > need to scramble to generate software for this, whereas there already are > scripts to support a URSF that work with the source code I pointed to

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-25 Thread Jeremy Rubin via bitcoin-dev
The reason there was not a mailing list post is because that's not a committed plan, it was offered up for discussion to a public working group for feedback as a potential plan. You've inaccurately informed the list on something no one has communicated committed intent for. This was an alternative

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-25 Thread Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev
The latest I'm hearing (this mailing list appears to be being bypassed in favor of personal blogs and messaging apps) is that Speedy Trial miner signaling for the contentious CTV soft fork is no longer going to start on May 5th (as previously communicated [1]) and may instead now start around Au

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-23 Thread Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev
As I said in my post: "If you care about Bitcoin's consensus rules I'd request you pay attention so you can make an informed view on what to run and what to support." Ideally everyone would come to an informed view independently. Unfortunately many people don't have the time to follow Bitcoin d

Re: [bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-23 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
> assuming people pay attention and listen to the individuals who were trusted during that period Bitcoin is not run by a group of authorities of olde. By asking people to trust "those.. around in 2015-2017" you're asking people to blindly trust authorities. This, in my strong opinion, goes agai

[bitcoin-dev] What to expect in the next few weeks

2022-04-22 Thread Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev
If the next few weeks go how I fear they will it could get messy. If you care about Bitcoin's consensus rules I'd request you pay attention so you can make an informed view on what to run and what to support. For those of you who were around in 2015-2017 you'll know what to expect. The right out