On 5/11/23 04:02, vjudeu via bitcoin-dev wrote:
Every transaction paying "fee > sum" can be replaced by N transactions
paying "fee <= sum", where the sum of all fees will be the same.
These N transactions will generally have a lower feerate than the
original, and the lowest feerate of the N
Regardless of the submitter's rationale, it is easy to work around any rule
that denies mempool inclusion based on fee proportion: if you have plenty,
add inputs from your own wallet and return to yourself; if not, borrow them
and return to the lender, maybe with interest.
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at
Another use case for paying more fees than outputs is to incentivize
honest mining when Bitcoin is under a state-level censorship attack.
If it's really important to me that my transaction goes through, I
might be willing to set a fee at 99x the output value. It's the only
way bitcoin could work
> confused. the rule was "cannot pay a fee > sum of outputs with
> consideration of cpfp in the mempool"
> your example is of someone paying a fee "< sum" which wouldn't be blocked
Every transaction paying "fee > sum" can be replaced by N transactions paying
"fee <= sum", where the sum of
confused. the rule was "cannot pay a fee > sum of outputs with
consideration of cpfp in the mempool"
your example is of someone paying a fee "< sum" which wouldn't be blocked
note: again, i'm not a fan of this, i like the discussion of "bitcoin as
money only" and using fee as a lever to do
> possible to change tx "max fee" to output amounts?
Is it possible? Yes. Should we do that? My first thought was "maybe", but after
thinking more about it, I would say "no", here is why:
Starting point: 1 BTC on some output.
Current situation: A single transaction moving 0.9000 BTC as
fair. i suppose you could support cpfp in any dust filtering. im not a
fan, but I think its the only legit way to defend the chain from non money
use cases
On Mon, May 8, 2023, 7:58 PM Peter Todd wrote:
> On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 07:59:40PM -0400, Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev
> wrote:
> >
On Sun, May 07, 2023 at 07:59:40PM -0400, Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> possible to change tx "max fee" to output amounts?
>
> seems like the only use case that would support such a tx is spam/dos type
> stuff that satoshi warned about
>
> its not a fix for everything, but it seems
possible to change tx "max fee" to output amounts?
seems like the only use case that would support such a tx is spam/dos type
stuff that satoshi warned about
its not a fix for everything, but it seems could help a bit with certain
attacks
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