Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

2012-01-16 Thread Jorge Timón
It may be a political issue, but I don't think wikipedia becomes a political organization for being against censorship. This is not about left or right. Is about free speech, one of the basic principles not only of freedom but also of democracy. And as Gregory shows it clearly affects bitcoin direc

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

2012-01-16 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Kyle Henderson wrote: > For those that believe one particularly noisy country in the North America > region with a policy called SOPA or PIPA directly affects Bitcoin - can you > point out precisely where it does so? In addition to the concerns about internet free

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

2012-01-16 Thread Kyle Henderson
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > There are always issues that raise ire and moral outrage. I would > rather that bitcoin.org stay apolitical -- our users will appreciate > this in the long run. > > Agreed :) For those that believe one particularly noisy country in the No

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

2012-01-16 Thread Cameron Garnham
I think that bitcoin.org should remain apolitical. However maybe it would be good if the blackout to take effect on bitcointalk.org if theymos and Sirius believes it is appropriate. Bitcoin.org should provide bitcoin. On 17/01/2012 11:59 AM, slush wrote: > I agree Bitcoin should avoid ma

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

2012-01-16 Thread Luke-Jr
On Monday, January 16, 2012 7:46:39 PM Alan Reiner wrote: > In response to Jeff and Luke-Jr, I don't see how this is /just any other > poltical issue/. It strikes at the heart of everything Bitcoin is about. Sorry, Bitcoin is not about the same thing to everyone. For me, Bitcoin is about one thi

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

2012-01-16 Thread slush
> I agree Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands. I agree on this. Please don't turn Bitcoin project/homepage into some political agitation. Not everybody care about political attitude of main project developers. slush On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Alan Reiner wrote: > ** >

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

2012-01-16 Thread Alan Reiner
You guys are representing both extremes of the issue. In response to Jeff and Luke-Jr, I don't see how this is /just any other poltical issue/. It strikes at the heart of everything Bitcoin is about. Barring Bitcoin-specific legislation, I don't see how any legislation could be more relevant

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

2012-01-16 Thread Amir Taaki
Bunk argument. This is an issue that affects bitcoin directly. Wikipedia has far more need to remain neutral and apolitical than bitcoin ever does- you've read Satoshi's politically charged whitepaper or seen the genesis block quote. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP Submission

2012-01-16 Thread Gavin Andresen
Your approach won't work-- OP_ADD is limited to 4-byte operands. Changing that would require a "hard" blockchain split / entire-network-upgrade. I wish to submit the following draft BIP for discussion and possible > formal BIP review. > > https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_M_of_2_DRAFT > > It is a pr

[Bitcoin-development] 0.5.2 - rush?

2012-01-16 Thread Luke-Jr
Mushoz makes a good point: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=58450.msg695052#msg695052 Do we have enough downloads on 0.5.2rc1 to get the final rushed out and onto the website? -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Mar

[Bitcoin-development] BIP Submission

2012-01-16 Thread Ben Reeves
Hi everyone, I wish to submit the following draft BIP for discussion and possible formal BIP review. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_M_of_2_DRAFT It is a proposed alternative to BIP 16 ("/P2SH/"). Thank you, Ben Reeves

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

2012-01-16 Thread Wladimir
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Wladimir wrote: > > Internet censorship *is* a threat to bitcoin, if we don't stand up for > our > > rights now we deserve anything that is coming. There will be no "long > run". > > Very few people actual

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout

2012-01-16 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Wladimir wrote: > Internet censorship *is* a threat to bitcoin, if we don't stand up for our > rights now we deserve anything that is coming. There will be no "long run". Very few people actually care if they can load that particular URL ... if you were talking ab