[Bitcoin-development] Payment protocol thoughts

2012-10-02 Thread Mike Hearn
I've been thinking about the requirements for a payment protocol lately. It seems we have consensus that we need one of these. Pieter has a gist on the topic here: https://gist.github.com/1237788 IMHO we'll want to move away from send X BTC to address Y and more towards upload to me transactions

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Payment protocol thoughts

2012-10-02 Thread Gavin Andresen
I agree we need a payment protocol, but instead of thinking of all of the things we might possibly want I would like to solve a few boring problems that we have right now. Absolutely critical: + Bitcoin addresses by themselves are insecure against man-in-the-middle attacks. We need a payment

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Payment protocol thoughts

2012-10-02 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Peter Vessenes pe...@coinlab.com wrote: This is small, but an interesting tidbit from BTC Foundation payments; roughly 3-5% of our initial members double-spent. WOW, that's terrible. To be specific, do you mean a) paid twice or b) sent BF coins, then sent

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Payment protocol thoughts

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Vessenes
I meant sent twice, a. No double-spends that I'm aware of. Sorry for the loose verbiage! Peter On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Jeff Garzik jgar...@exmulti.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Peter Vessenes pe...@coinlab.com wrote: This is small, but an interesting tidbit from BTC

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Payment protocol thoughts

2012-10-02 Thread Mike Hearn
I think it's worth pondering the different things we may want in future, even if that future is quite far out, just to ensure we have a robust design that won't box us in later. Brainstorming feature ideas now doesn't commit anyone to implementing them, but it may help improve the final v1 design.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoin Testing Project

2012-10-02 Thread steve
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/10/2012 17:52, Peter Vessenes wrote: I'm a big proponent of a testing project. I am very happy to hear this, however, your actual words are slightly evasive. I do not expect you to be up to speed on this. Gavin started a project called 'the

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoin Testing Project

2012-10-02 Thread steve
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/10/2012 03:02, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:15 PM, steve st...@mistfpga.net wrote: Im ready to go, more or less. Please check out the links in my previous emails. I have over 400 testcases (8 platforms * 50 release

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoin Testing Project

2012-10-02 Thread Peter Vessenes
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