Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP70 proposed changes

2014-02-18 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
[Ick, resending to list due to From: snafu] On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Peter Todd wrote: > What specifically do you dislike about X.509? The technical standard or > the infrastructure around it? (IE the centralized authorities) I'm not the one who was complaining, but what I dislike is th

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP70 proposed changes

2014-02-18 Thread Derber
Any possibility of a UNIX UTC timestamp field in the customer payment message? For many transactions, the exact time of payment is when it is 'made' by the customer and not when 'requested' by the retailer or later mined. The blockchain time is an aggregate for the block and can differ significant

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP70 proposed changes

2014-02-18 Thread Peter Todd
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 02:14:24PM -0500, Ryan X. Charles wrote: > The payment protocol is also the perfect opportunity to implement merge > avoidance to increase customer and merchant privacy. The merchant can > simply deliver multiple outputs in the payment details, say 10 or so, > and the custom

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP70 proposed changes

2014-02-18 Thread Andreas Schildbach
On 02/18/2014 08:14 PM, Ryan X. Charles wrote: > The most important missing piece of the payment protocol is that is has > no concept of the status of a payment after it has been made. What if > the payment is too little? Too much? What if it is never confirmed? What > if it is confirmed, but very

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP70 proposed changes

2014-02-18 Thread Gavin Andresen
Fantastic feedback, thanks Ryan and Andreas! Please don't let me being busy get in the way of progress, so submit pull requests to the BIP (the UTC timezone issue seems obvious and non-controversial) or write up draft specs for extensions. RE: wallets checking the status of payment: excellent id

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP70 proposed changes

2014-02-18 Thread Ryan X. Charles
Here are my complementary thoughts after working on the payment protocol on the merchant side at BitPay. The most important missing piece of the payment protocol is that is has no concept of the status of a payment after it has been made. What if the payment is too little? Too much? What if it is

[Bitcoin-development] BIP70 proposed changes

2014-02-18 Thread Andreas Schildbach
I'm starting a thread on proposed changes on BIP70 based on my experience in implementing the payment protocol in Bitcoin Wallet: - certificate chain in pki_data: I think it should be required that is most contain the first certificate PLUS all intermediate certificates (if any), but NOT the root

Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoind json API (gettx/raw) (newbie questions #2)

2014-02-18 Thread Odinn Cyberguerrilla
> Hey everybody, > > here's another question that I have: > > I'd like a small bit of clarification about the gettx / getrawtransaction > (decoded) api call. I understand that I can find the address that a > transaction output is directed at / available to for future use sits in > the > vout array