Re: [Bitcoin-development] Compatibility Bitcoin-Qt with Tails

2014-04-30 Thread Wladimir
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Kristov Atlas aut...@anonymousbitcoinbook.com wrote: Hey Wladimir, Thanks for building this binary. The initial problem with Qt was resolved, and I was able to load the GUI that chooses my datadir. After choosing the default datadir, however, it segfaulted.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Coinbase reallocation to discourage Finney attacks

2014-04-30 Thread Gareth Williams
On 30/04/14 00:26, Mike Hearn wrote: These parties wouldn't generally consider themselves attackers Of course not, attackers rarely do :) If Bitcoin works correctly nobody should have to care if they consider themselves attackers, defenders, or little green men from Mars. There are

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Coinbase reallocation to discourage Finney attacks

2014-04-30 Thread Gareth Williams
On 30/04/14 00:13, Mike Hearn wrote: I do think we need to move beyond this idea of Bitcoin being some kind of elegant embodiment of natural mathematical law. It just ain't so. I haven't seen anybody arguing that it is. Bitcoin is the elegant embodiment of /artificially contrived/

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Coinbase reallocation to discourage Finney attacks

2014-04-30 Thread Mike Hearn
I think we're going around in circles here so this will be my last message on the thread unless someone comes up with something new. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Gareth Williams gac...@gmail.com wrote: If Bitcoin works correctly nobody should have to care if they consider themselves

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Coinbase reallocation to discourage Finney attacks

2014-04-30 Thread Gareth Williams
On 30/04/14 00:13, Mike Hearn wrote: Every time miners and nodes ignore a block that creates formula() coins that's a majority vote on a controversial political matter Actually, there's one more thing I'd like to add. Apologies to the list, but it bears repeating: * rejecting a block at

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Coinbase reallocation to discourage Finney attacks

2014-04-30 Thread Gareth Williams
On 30/04/14 23:55, Mike Hearn wrote: If Bitcoin works correctly nobody should have to care if they consider themselves attackers, defenders, or little green men from Mars. One last time, I request that people read the white paper from 2008 before making statements like this. If the

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Coinbase reallocation to discourage Finney attacks

2014-04-30 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:00:06PM +1000, Gareth Williams wrote: On 30/04/14 00:13, Mike Hearn wrote: I do think we need to move beyond this idea of Bitcoin being some kind of elegant embodiment of natural mathematical law. It just ain't so. I haven't seen anybody arguing that it is.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Coinbase reallocation to discourage Finney attacks

2014-04-30 Thread Jameson Lopp
Perhaps I missed it somewhere, but I don't recall it ever being a goal of Bitcoin to act as a stable long-term store of value. - Jameson On 04/30/2014 01:06 PM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:00:06PM +1000, Gareth Williams wrote: On 30/04/14 00:13, Mike Hearn wrote: I do

[Bitcoin-development] BIP Draft: Atomic Cross Chain Transfer Protocol

2014-04-30 Thread Tier Nolan
Due to popular demand, I have created a BIP for cross chain atomic transfers. Unlike the previous version, this version only requires hash locking. The previous version required a selector transaction based on if statements. OP_HASH160 OP_EQUAL_VERIFY [public key] OP_CHECKSIG

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP Draft: Atomic Cross Chain Transfer Protocol

2014-04-30 Thread Luke Dashjr
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:03:59 PM Tier Nolan wrote: Due to popular demand, I have created a BIP for cross chain atomic transfers. https://github.com/TierNolan/bips/blob/bip4x/bip-atom.mediawiki Instead of TX0, TX1, etc, can you put some kind of meaningful identifier for these

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP Draft: Atomic Cross Chain Transfer Protocol

2014-04-30 Thread Tier Nolan
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Luke Dashjr l...@dashjr.org wrote: Instead of TX0, TX1, etc, can you put some kind of meaningful identifier for these transactions? Sorry, that is the names come from the original thread, where I was outlining the idea. I updated the names. TX1 and TX2

Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP Draft: Atomic Cross Chain Transfer Protocol

2014-04-30 Thread Tier Nolan
I updated again. The new version only requires non-standard transactions on one of the two networks. Next step is a simple TCP / RPC server that will implement the protocol to trade between testnet and mainnet. Timeouts of much less than 24 hours should be possible now. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014