Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-10 Thread Jeff Garzik
It is simpler than that; simple numbers. Bitcoin is volatile right now, not for fundamental architecture reasons, but for reasons why many other small issues are volatile. Low liquidity and a small issue implies that a single big player can easily the move the market. Further, it is volatile beca

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-10 Thread Baz
Bitcoin's volatility is not a symptom of its architecture, but a reflection of the collective knowledge of its future acceptance. Currently that knowledge is based on very volatile sources: how some senator feels about it this morning, which direction departments in the Chinese government are leani

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-10 Thread Jorge Timón
On 12/10/13, Ryan Carboni wrote: > You're just closed minded. No, at least to persons have explained you why your proposal is not feasible. If you wanted to learn, you would have made questions on why those parts of your proposal are unfeasible. There have been many proposals about "stablecoins"

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-10 Thread Wladimir
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Mike Caldwell wrote: > > I believe that if there ever becomes a consensus that Bitcoin’s inflation > parameters were a show-stopper for the Bitcoin economy, that the power to > correct it lies with merchants, who would vote for changing the rules. I > believe they

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Rick Wesson
+1 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Gavin Andresen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Ryan Carboni wrote: > >> The exchanges that are kept track of could be hard coded into Bitcoin or >> the miner could choose, how this works is not something I'm personally >> focused on. >> >> > That is l

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread kjj
Ryan Carboni wrote: Bitcoin lacks a Central Bank. This is a feature, not a bug. Also, this is offtopic. Political debate is thataway ->. bitcoin-development is for development and technical discussion. -- Sponsored

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Ryan Carboni
You're just closed minded. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Ryan Carboni wrote: > > It is not a violation of the trust of those holding the currency. Many > > people bought Bitcoin in the hopes that it's value in the relation of > other > > c

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Ryan Carboni
Bitcoin is made of many parts, yes, but not all parts were developed simultaneously. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Gavin Andresen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Ryan Carboni wrote: > >> The exchanges that are kept track of could be hard coded into Bitcoin or >> the miner could choos

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Allen Piscitello
I've got a better idea. Ben Bernake needs a new job. Let's just let him set the block reward. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Jameson Lopp wrote: > To piggyback on Jeff, > > Any proposal that is going to add reliance upon data from third parties > outside of the Bitcoin network itself is like

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Jameson Lopp
To piggyback on Jeff, Any proposal that is going to add reliance upon data from third parties outside of the Bitcoin network itself is likely going to be rejected outright. This opens far too many potential vulnerabilities. "The exchanges that are kept track of could be hard coded into Bitcoin or

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Mike Caldwell
on, rather than adopting the seignorage of some other alt coin out there today. Mike/Casascius From: Ryan Carboni [mailto:ryan.jc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 3:24 PM To: apoels...@wpsoftware.net Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Mon

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Ryan Carboni wrote: > It is not a violation of the trust of those holding the currency. Many > people bought Bitcoin in the hopes that it's value in the relation of other > currencies will increase, not because there's a fixed money supply. The > majority of people

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Ryan Carboni
It is not a violation of the trust of those holding the currency. Many people bought Bitcoin in the hopes that it's value in the relation of other currencies will increase, not because there's a fixed money supply. The majority of people using Bitcoin as a currency in exchange for real goods are us

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Gavin Andresen
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Ryan Carboni wrote: > The exchanges that are kept track of could be hard coded into Bitcoin or > the miner could choose, how this works is not something I'm personally > focused on. > > That is like saying "We need a way to travel around the world quickly. There w

[Bitcoin-development] Monetary Authority for Bitcoin

2013-12-09 Thread Ryan Carboni
This is no doubt probably a very controversial Bitcoin Improvement Proposal and is also a very rough draft of one. Bitcoin lacks a Central Bank. This is good and bad. A central bank benefits those with political connections. But Bitcoin lacks price stability, this generates menu costs, and incenti