Re: [Bitcoin-development] Working on social contracts (was: Paper Currency)

2014-05-19 Thread Justus Ranvier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/19/2014 11:07 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > I promise that if bad people show up with a sufficient pointy gun > that I'll do whatever they tell me to do. I'll make bad proposals, > submit backdoors, and argue with querulous folks on mailing lists,

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Working on social contracts (was: Paper Currency)

2014-05-19 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Justus Ranvier wrote: > YOU can make promises about YOUR future behavior. So can everyone else. > > The rest of the community can keep track of which developers will and > will not make promises about what changes they will and will not > attempt to implement in Bi

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Working on social contracts (was: Paper Currency)

2014-05-19 Thread Justus Ranvier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/19/2014 10:06 PM, Mike Hearn wrote: > Sorry. I will never agree to the concept of a relevant idea so > dangerous it cannot be discussed. That's medieval thinking. If you > would like to create a parallel development forum where people have > to s

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Working on social contracts (was: Paper Currency)

2014-05-19 Thread Mike Hearn
Sorry. I will never agree to the concept of a relevant idea so dangerous it cannot be discussed. That's medieval thinking. If you would like to create a parallel development forum where people have to swear an oath not to think bad thoughts, go right ahead and do so. But I'm glad to see you correc

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Working on social contracts (was: Paper Currency)

2014-05-19 Thread Gavin Andresen
Okey dokey: I hereby promise and solemnly swear on pain of atomic wedgie that I will never ever work on or endorse any changes to the Bitcoin system that would enable any person or group to confiscate, blacklist, or devalue any other person or group's bitcoin. RE: writing an RFC: go for it. I hav

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Working on social contracts (was: Paper Currency)

2014-05-19 Thread Justus Ranvier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/19/2014 09:41 PM, Gavin Andresen wrote: > Now I'm really confused. > > Why would Mike or I have the authority to write a "social contract" > to promise anything about future-Bitcoin? YOU can make promises about YOUR future behavior. So can ever

[Bitcoin-development] Working on social contracts (was: Paper Currency)

2014-05-19 Thread Gavin Andresen
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Justus Ranvier wrote: > > You and Gavin could do a lot better by working on a Bitcoin social > contract - a promise of what features will *never* be added (or taken > away) from Bitcoin, because despite what you say it's not acceptable > to propose anything at all.