I've created a simulation framework called simbit to simulate the selfish
mining attack, though it is general enough to simulate any p2p network. I
even put together a rough simulation of MinCen. The goal is to be fun/easy
to rapidly prototype protocols and strategies, and visualize them. It's
writ
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 11:28:52AM -0700, Daniel Lidstrom wrote:
> Hey Peter, something seems wrong with your above analysis: I think a miner
> would withhold his block not because it leads to a greater probability of
> winning the next one, but because it increases his expected revenue.
>
> Suppo
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Andreas M. Antonopoulos
wrote:
> Nicholas Weaver is reporting that pools have already started delaying
> blocks, something that hints at Selfish Mining, since Nov. 3rd.
> https://medium.com/something-like-falling/d321a2ef9317
>
> He dismisses other reasons for dela
Nicholas Weaver is reporting that pools have already started delaying
blocks, something that hints at Selfish Mining, since Nov. 3rd.
https://medium.com/something-like-falling/d321a2ef9317
He dismisses other reasons for delayed block propagation.
Any ideas on whether pools are already mucking aro
Hey Peter, something seems wrong with your above analysis: I think a miner
would withhold his block not because it leads to a greater probability of
winning the next one, but because it increases his expected revenue.
Suppose a cabal with fraction q of the total hashing power is n blocks
ahead on
Once the ASIC race calms down because everyone has one, has more or less
optimal power supplies, process improvements aren't easily reachable
anymore etc then I'd expect people to dissipate from the large pools
because eliminating their fees will become the next lowest hanging fruit to
squeeze out
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 02:56:56PM +1000, Gavin Andresen wrote:
> > P.S: If any large pools want to try this stuff out, give me a shout. You
> > have my PGP key - confidentiality assured.
> >
>
> If I find out one of the large pools decides to run this 'experiment' on
> the main network, I will ma
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:59:28PM -0600, Kyle Jerviss wrote:
> Each block that you solve has a reward. In practice, some blocks
> will be orphaned, so the expected reward is slightly less than the
> nominal reward. Each second that you delay publishing a block, the
> expected reward drops somewh
I wonder if you need to take into consideration the fact that there might
be another "bad" pool (in the 1-Q part of the network) running the same
strategy and also holding on to two blocks of their own? Once they find
their third block before you do, then your 2 blocks lead is gone instantly.
--
What I want is configurable 1/10/100 millisecond ticks, and accurate
flow of information.
It doesn't seem necessary to really emulate the whole protocol, nor to
be overly concerned with the content of messages, nor to simulate every
little housekeeping step or network message.
I'm not lookin
Each block that you solve has a reward. In practice, some blocks will
be orphaned, so the expected reward is slightly less than the nominal
reward. Each second that you delay publishing a block, the expected
reward drops somewhat.
On an infinite timeline, the total reward approaches the expe
> P.S: If any large pools want to try this stuff out, give me a shout. You
> have my PGP key - confidentiality assured.
>
If I find out one of the large pools decides to run this 'experiment' on
the main network, I will make it my mission to tell people to switch to a
more responsible pool.
And i
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:15:40PM -0600, Kyle Jerviss wrote:
> You are ignoring the gambler's ruin. We do not operate on an
> infinite timeline. If you find a big pool willing to try this,
> please give me enough advance warning to get my popcorn ready.
Gamblers ruin has nothing to do with it.
You are ignoring the gambler's ruin. We do not operate on an infinite
timeline. If you find a big pool willing to try this, please give me
enough advance warning to get my popcorn ready.
Peter Todd wrote:
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 01:06:47PM -0500, Christophe Biocca wrote:
I might try building
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 01:06:47PM -0500, Christophe Biocca wrote:
> I might try building this sometime soon. I think it may also serve an
> educational purpose when trying to understand the whole network's behaviour.
>
> What level of accuracy are we looking for though? Obviously we need to
> ful
bounty++
On 06-11-13 06:33, kjj wrote:
> One of the things that really gets me going is when someone devises a
> model, tests it against itself, and then pretends that they've learned
> something about the real world.
>
> Naturally, the Selfish Mining paper is exactly this sort of nonsense.
>
On 6 November 2013 06:33, kjj wrote:
> One of the things that really gets me going is when someone devises a
> model, tests it against itself, and then pretends that they've learned
> something about the real world.
>
> Naturally, the Selfish Mining paper is exactly this sort of nonsense.
> Their
I might try building this sometime soon. I think it may also serve an
educational purpose when trying to understand the whole network's behaviour.
What level of accuracy are we looking for though? Obviously we need to
fully emulate the steps of the network protocol, and we need to be able to
speci
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:33 PM, kjj wrote:
> One of the things that really gets me going is when someone devises a
> model, tests it against itself,
One of the things that really gets me going is when someone devises a
model, tests it against itself, and then pretends that they've learned
something about the real world.
Naturally, the Selfish Mining paper is exactly this sort of nonsense.
Their model is one with no latency, and one where t
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