Word of warning about pre-paid CC. They appear to have an expiry (plus a
service charge which has no real bearing on the point of this discussion
but had everything to do with my kid's iTunes account :-) ).

Not sure how the expiration fits legally with the "gift certificate"
legistlation preventing expiration/service charges but take note as your
"backup" may not be valid 3yrs down the road when you need it.
-- 
dbc.

> John,
>
> This is why we have an option to use 2 credit cards in your account
> profile.
>
> You can have a backup credit card in your profile for situations like
> this.
>
> You can purchase a $100.00 prepaid credit card from your local corner
> store and use it as a backup credit card under your Unlimitel profile.
>
> This way you are protected against any down time due to credit card
> issues.
>
> Stephan.
>
> On 2010-08-04, at 2:08 PM, John Van Ostrand wrote:
>
>>
>> I think I see part of the problem with Unlimitel's business model.
>> Typically as a consumer I don't fully appreciate problems until they
>> happen to me. I may not think about how I might be unable to provide a
>> credit card in a 24 hour period to keep service running. When it does
>> happen I would be mad at a provider that I openly endorsed. To make
>> matters worse, most of us have met Stephan and, on occasion, communicate
>> directly with him and so we naturally feel like we have developed a
>> better level of trust than his business model allows.
>>
>> To find out that disruption of service can happen and that there is no
>> compassion from a person who has the authority to correct problems is
>> disturbing. Stephan I really like what you are doing at Unlimitel, and
>> cost isn't the reason I'm a customer, I gave up a cheaper provider to
>> use Unlimitel. The quality and stability of your service isn't just
>> being able to handle calls, I'm just realizing because of this thread
>> another weak point is credit card processing. I don't care if your
>> service is five-nines if a credit card issue brings it down. How can I
>> justify moving a client's in-bound DID to Unlimitel if a credit card
>> screw up can cost their business real dollars. It hurts my credibility
>> as well.
>>
>> Part of the reason why I think you have been successful is that we all
>> know you personally, at least through TAUG. If you were some faceless
>> corporation people might not be so upset.
>>
>> Finally prepay seems to be better accepted by consumers than business.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> Whoa. I did not mean to open a can of worms.
>>>
>>> I have resolved a problem by providing Unlimitel with my girlfriend's
>>> credit card # to authorize a payment for $12, after getting my
>>> girlfriend in the middle of the day over to McGill to scan her credit
>>> card form and signature (she was not too happy :) ) and will provide
>>> them with new CCs when they come in from a bank (hopefully this
>>> morning). Thank you.
>>>
>>> What I wanted to say was that I was a bit surprised that they treat
>>> you like a criminal threating to cut off your service within hours
>>> (for $12 nevertheless) even when you have steady minutes / payments
>>> for the last several years. I understand that it could become a
>>> problem, but maybe with new accounts, and not long term existing
>>> clients. As for www.VoIPGizmos.ca - we have clients who pay after and
>>> have about $8,000 in outstanding payments - we only give this benefit
>>> of the doubt to customers who have spent several thousand with us in a
>>> past and not for new ones. As Mike Lipkin would say, Trust your fellow
>>> man.
>>>
>>> BUT.... Unlimitel VoIP quality and support is amazing and highly
>>> recommended and the only of its kind in Canada. Just make sure no one
>>> steals your credit cards or you are in trouble, Buster. :)
>>
>> --
>> John Van Ostrand
>> CTO, co-CEO
>> Net Direct Inc.
>> 564 Weber St. N. Unit 12, Waterloo, ON N2L 5C6
>> Ph: 866-883-1172 x5102
>> Fx: 519-883-8533
>>
>> Linux Solutions / IBM Hardware
>>
>> --
>> John Van Ostrand
>> CTO, co-CEO
>> Net Direct Inc.
>> 564 Weber St. N. Unit 12, Waterloo, ON N2L 5C6
>> Ph: 866-883-1172 x5102
>> Fx: 519-883-8533
>>
>> Linux Solutions / IBM Hardware
>>
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