Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Jim Gifford
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: .so files belong in /usr/lib .so.version belong in /lib. I'm not sure what you are saying here Jim. If the library file is either referenced as a symlink or a regular file by an excutable file in /bin or /sbin, it needs

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jim Gifford wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: .so files belong in /usr/lib .so.version belong in /lib. I'm not sure what you are saying here Jim. If the library file is either referenced as a symlink or a regular file by an excutable file in /bin or /sbin, it needs to be in /lib. Th

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Jim Gifford
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Jim Gifford wrote: .so files belong in /usr/lib .so.version belong in /lib. I'm not sure what you are saying here Jim. If the library file is either referenced as a symlink or a regular file by an excutable file in /bin or /sbin, it needs to be in /lib. There should be no l

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/22/05 00:27 CST: Jim Gifford wrote: .so files belong in /usr/lib .so.version belong in /lib. I'm not sure what you are saying here Jim. If the library file is either referenced as a symlink or a regular file by an excutable file in /bin o

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/22/05 00:27 CST: > Jim Gifford wrote: > >>.so files belong in /usr/lib .so.version belong in /lib. > > I'm not sure what you are saying here Jim. If the library file > is either referenced as a symlink or a regular file by an excutable file > in /bin or /sbin

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jim Gifford wrote: .so files belong in /usr/lib .so.version belong in /lib. I'm not sure what you are saying here Jim. If the library file is either referenced as a symlink or a regular file by an excutable file in /bin or /sbin, it needs to be in /lib. There should be no links from /lib to a

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jim Gifford wrote these words on 02/21/05 23:57 CST: > .so files belong in /usr/lib .so.version belong in /lib. And to further clarify, .so *symlinks* belong in /usr/lib. Binaries that are named somelibname.version.so may belong in /lib. -- Randy rmlinux: [GNU ld version 2.15.91.0.2 20040727]

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Jim Gifford
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, Linux-PAM installs the following libraries into the /lib directory: libpam, libpamc and libpam_misc. Both static and dynamic libs are installed. The instructions move the .a libs to /usr/lib and create .so symlinks to the /lib/libname.so.0.78 files i

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/21/05 23:31 CST: > Randy McMurchy wrote: >>It is my understanding that the .so files, like the .a files are only >>used for linking during compilation of other programs. > > Incorrect. They are loaded when the program is loaded. If they are > already in memo

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/21/05 23:04 CST: It is my understanding that the .so files, like the .a files are only used for linking during compilation of other programs. Incorrect. They are loaded when the program is loaded. If they are already in memory, they do

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/21/05 23:04 CST: > Programs like login use PAM and must have the PAM libraries available > even if /usr is not mounted, so the .so files must be available in /lib. > Symlinks within or to /lib are ok. It is my understanding that the .so files, like the .a f

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, Linux-PAM installs the following libraries into the /lib directory: libpam, libpamc and libpam_misc. Both static and dynamic libs are installed. The instructions move the .a libs to /usr/lib and create .so symlinks to the /lib/libname.so.0.78 files in /usr/lib as well.

Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Linux-PAM installs the following libraries into the /lib directory: libpam, libpamc and libpam_misc. Both static and dynamic libs are installed. The instructions move the .a libs to /usr/lib and create .so symlinks to the /lib/libname.so.0.78 files in /usr/lib as well. What I'm curious a

Re: faillog

2005-02-21 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jack Brown wrote these words on 02/21/05 20:54 CST: > Well, we do log failures in /var/log/btmp, and when I run the faillog > command it only lists faild logins by recognised users. lastb does > report the logins by unrecognised users, but just list's them as > unknown. Also without the log f

Re: faillog

2005-02-21 Thread Jack Brown
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Jack Brown wrote: Hi, I'm curious, why we don't create a /var/log/faillog file when we create the other log files for shadow? I've been using it on my own system for quite a while and it seems to work fine with login from shadow. I'm also wondering if I should be making

Status update with regards to the search engine: it works again

2005-02-21 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, This message to lfs-dev/support and blfs-dev/support. People on the other lists will read this so not cross-posting more than necessary. As you all know, or may have suspected anyway, the search engine hasn't been updating lately. It worked in that it returned results, but it wasn't up

openssl manpages

2005-02-21 Thread handsome greg
i think the openssl man pages overwrite some of the standard ones. for instance try man 3 rand. is this just me? has this been discussed? handsome greg -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above informa

CVS status

2005-02-21 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Hi guys, I left out some lists but I'm sure everybody on the other lists will read this too through these three lists. Is CVS still used by anybody? I know all the books use SVN now. How about things like alfs profiles? From the commit messages to alfs-log it looks all SVN to me. I am pretty

Re: faillog

2005-02-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jack Brown wrote: Hi, I'm curious, why we don't create a /var/log/faillog file when we create the other log files for shadow? I've been using it on my own system for quite a while and it seems to work fine with login from shadow. I'm also wondering if I should be making my faillog writable

Re: faillog

2005-02-21 Thread Jack Brown
Jack Brown wrote: Hi, I'm curious, why we don't create a /var/log/faillog file when we create the other log files for shadow? I've been using it on my own system for quite a while and it seems to work fine with login from shadow. I'm also wondering if I should be making my faillog writable

faillog

2005-02-21 Thread Jack Brown
Hi, I'm curious, why we don't create a /var/log/faillog file when we create the other log files for shadow? I've been using it on my own system for quite a while and it seems to work fine with login from shadow. I'm also wondering if I should be making my faillog writable by the utmp group

X11R6.8.2

2005-02-21 Thread David Jensen
xorg released 6.8.2 Feb 9, 2005. I've run here it here since the 10th, no problems. It fixes crashes I have had on a vintage radeon and has the 681-CAN bug fixes. Current instructions are correct. IMHO, it should be marked for inclusion in the release. --- David Jensen -- http://linuxfromscra