Re: [blfs-dev] NTP

2012-02-16 Thread Andrew Benton
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:47:37 -0800 Qrux qrux@gmail.com wrote: * So, I propose turning -x off. I agree, I run ntpd -g However, I also think the ntpd bootscript will work fine for most people and for those (like me) who think it should be done differently it's trivial to edit the

Re: [blfs-dev] NTP

2012-02-16 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:16:12 +, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:47:37 -0800 Qrux qrux@gmail.com wrote: * So, I propose turning -x off. I agree, I run ntpd -g However, I also think the ntpd bootscript will work fine for most people and for those

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9433 [ seed ]

2012-02-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 07:46:07AM -0700, k...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: + +paraThis package does not have a working testsuite./para + I was originally going to ask to have it minuted that this was where I cracked and told the truth about a testsuite, after some circumlocutions in

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r9433 [ seed ]

2012-02-16 Thread Andrew Benton
On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:20:49 + Ken Moffat zarniwh...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 07:46:07AM -0700, k...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: + +paraThis package does not have a working testsuite./para + I was originally going to ask to have it minuted that this was

[blfs-dev] gtkmm2 and gtkmm3 (gtkmm-2.24.2 and gtkmm-3.3.14)

2012-02-16 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Hi, I upgraded gtkmm to 3.2.0 according to BLFS, yesterday. Then, some packages could not be built anymore, complaining about some missing libraries. Comparing the libraries created with the ones mentioned in the book, I noticed important differences. Then I decided to get the latest versions.

Re: [blfs-dev] gtkmm2 and gtkmm3 (gtkmm-2.24.2 and gtkmm-3.3.14)

2012-02-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:54:20AM -0800, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Hi, I upgraded gtkmm to 3.2.0 according to BLFS, yesterday. Then, some packages could not be built anymore, complaining about some missing libraries. Comparing the libraries created with the ones mentioned in the book, I

Re: [blfs-dev] NTP

2012-02-16 Thread Qrux
On Feb 16, 2012, at 4:38 AM, Matthew Burgess wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:16:12 +, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:47:37 -0800 Qrux qrux@gmail.com wrote: * So, I propose turning -x off. I agree, I run ntpd -g However, I also think the ntpd

[blfs-dev] Test Suites

2012-02-16 Thread Qrux
On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Andrew Benton wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:20:49 + Ken Moffat zarniwh...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 07:46:07AM -0700, k...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: + +paraThis package does not have a working testsuite./para + I was originally

Re: [blfs-dev] NTP

2012-02-16 Thread Matt Burgess
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 14:13 -0800, Qrux wrote: On Feb 16, 2012, at 4:38 AM, Matthew Burgess wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:16:12 +, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:47:37 -0800 Qrux qrux@gmail.com wrote: * So, I propose turning -x off. I

Re: [blfs-dev] Test Suites

2012-02-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
But instead, I'm going to suggest that we just stop mentioning testsuites in BLFS. Or at least make it optional? In principle, I think testsuites are awesome; I like the confidence they give that the system works as advertised. I mean, if you're compiling from source, you need some

Re: [blfs-dev] Test Suites

2012-02-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 02:22:08PM -0800, Qrux wrote: On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:05 AM, Andrew Benton wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:20:49 + Ken Moffat zarniwh...@ntlworld.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 07:46:07AM -0700, k...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: + +paraThis package

Re: [blfs-dev] NTP

2012-02-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Qrux wrote: It also wasn't the question I was asking. I run ntpd in daemon mode, because I want it to keep correcting my time after boot, and that's where the slewing/stepping behavior is relevant. Yes daemon mode is the script default. * So, I propose turning -x off. OK, I won't make a