Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-30 Thread Simon Geard
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 08:11 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > They fooled me. I have: > > $ glxinfo > name of display: :0.0 > display: :0 screen: 0 > direct rendering: Yes > server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation > ... > > It appears that they fool xorg too. Do we really have a terminology > p

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-29 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 5/29/06, Peter B. Steiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Definitely. Maybe a "who should install this" paragraph, either listing or linking to the cards supported by that version of driver? I tried to add that, basically saying this configuration is for Mesa only with links to the NVIDIA and A

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-29 Thread Peter B. Steiger
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:07 +1200, Simon Geard wrote: > Instead, I suggest you say something like "Binary drivers such as > those > provided by nVidia should not use this option as they do not make use > of > the DRI framework." > > Sound reasonable? Definitely. Maybe a "who should install this

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-29 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 5/28/06, Dan Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/28/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem is that DRI is not always appropriate. If using the > Nvidia proprietary drivers, the DRI line in the module section needes > to be removed or commented out. > > Overall the se

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
On 5/29/06, Simon Geard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Terminology check on 'other DRI drivers'. The drivers provided by nVidia (and I assume ATI) provide hardware acceleration, but they don't use the Direct Rendering Infrastructure - referring to them as DRI drivers is thus somewhat misleading. T

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-29 Thread Simon Geard
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 15:48 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 5/28/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The problem is that DRI is not always appropriate. If using the > > Nvidia proprietary drivers, the DRI line in the module section needes > > to be removed or commented out. > > > >

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-28 Thread DJ Lucas
Stefano Lampis wrote: Peter B. Steiger wrote: On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 20:33 +0200, Stefano Lampis wrote: (after Dan sez) I was really surprised to see it wasn't in the book. I'm gonna put on my editor's hat for a few hours tonight, so if I beat you to it... Probably the reason is that l

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-28 Thread Stefano Lampis
Peter B. Steiger wrote: > On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 20:33 +0200, Stefano Lampis wrote: > (after Dan sez) >>> I was really surprised to see it wasn't in the book. I'm gonna put >> on >>> my editor's hat for a few hours tonight, so if I beat you to it... > >> Probably the reason is that lfs users shoul

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-28 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 5/28/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The problem is that DRI is not always appropriate. If using the Nvidia proprietary drivers, the DRI line in the module section needes to be removed or commented out. Overall the setting is hardware dependent. Good point. I think I'll put in

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
On 5/27/06, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peter B. Steiger wrote these words on 05/27/06 20:08 CST: > I know that's covered in FAQs all over the world, but I figure it makes > sense for it to be included with the other xorg.conf instructions. This, to me, is a very good suggestion.

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-28 Thread Peter B. Steiger
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 20:33 +0200, Stefano Lampis wrote: (after Dan sez) > > I was really surprised to see it wasn't in the book. I'm gonna put > on > > my editor's hat for a few hours tonight, so if I beat you to it... > Probably the reason is that lfs users should be experienced users, > withou

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-28 Thread TheOldFellow
Stefano Lampis wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: On 5/28/06, DJ Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah. The suggestion is correct (except if you use a name instead of gid, it must be quoted). This has been just 'known' for a long time. I don't know why it was never added to the dri section. Perhaps

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-28 Thread Stefano Lampis
Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 5/28/06, DJ Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Yeah. The suggestion is correct (except if you use a name instead of >> gid, it must be quoted). This has been just 'known' for a long time. I >> don't know why it was never added to the dri section. Perhaps using a >>

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-28 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 5/28/06, DJ Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah. The suggestion is correct (except if you use a name instead of gid, it must be quoted). This has been just 'known' for a long time. I don't know why it was never added to the dri section. Perhaps using a specific group vs eveyone. I'll pu

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-28 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: Peter B. Steiger wrote these words on 05/27/06 20:08 CST: I know that's covered in FAQs all over the world, but I figure it makes sense for it to be included with the other xorg.conf instructions. This, to me, is a very good suggestion. DJ, care to handle it? I cannot

Re: Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
Peter B. Steiger wrote these words on 05/27/06 20:08 CST: > I know that's covered in FAQs all over the world, but I figure it makes > sense for it to be included with the other xorg.conf instructions. This, to me, is a very good suggestion. DJ, care to handle it? I cannot confirm it, as I don't

Suggestion for "Additional X Window System Configuration" chapter

2006-05-27 Thread Peter B. Steiger
It took me a couple of hours to figure out why root could run glxgears and my normal login could not - xorg.conf was lacking the Section DRI settings that give the access mode to the DRI memory space and/or groups who have rights to DRI: Section "DRI" Mode 0660 Group video EndSecti