Here in the U.K. grounding rods are usually only 4 feet!
Did you buy a clamp for the top to which you connect the 10 gauge copper
wire?!
David
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Edward Przybylek
Sent: 17 December 2007 03:14
To: B
55?!
That is HOT - we had max 2C - no work in the shop !
David
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Larry Stansifer
Sent: 17 December 2007 03:14
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationF
Most of the grounding rods I have seen are copper plated steel. If you hit
a small rock it will break it or push it out of the way or make a curve
around it. A bolder will bring you to a dead stop. When that happens, cut
it off just above the ground, sharpen the remaining piece, and drive it
Tom asked.
How would these things get up stairs?
The same way the Dalix do. Not sure of the spelling. Think Doctor who.
Regards.
Max. K 4 O D S.
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Hi Matt. I'm Max, I live in Bowling Green Kentucky, am 67 going on 68 years
young and am retired from Western Kentucky University where I taught physics
and electrical engineering for 33 years. My primary interest is woodworking
and general household handyman stuff.
Regards.
Max. K 4 O D S.
You can make a sliding table out of some plywood and 2 by 4s. Or, you can
buy one if you would rather. They ride in the miter slots and have to be
waxed so they will slide easily. I'm going to make a couple, one big and
another even bigger as soon as I get around to it.
Regards.
Max. K 4 O
Oh ya if you use this method don't forget to fill in the whole once you
place the rod down in the ground. Grin.
Sorry couldn't help but to point out the obvious.
Have funn.
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Behalf Of robert moore
Sent: Sunday,
Ed
First of all are you in a part of the country where the ground is not
frozen?
If so one thought that I would have is to get a post hole digger. This might
not be a task for the week at heart and you will not be able to dig 8 feet
down but it will give you a start. Just in case you don't know, an
Well the grounding rod does not have to be one eight foot solid piece. You
need eight feet total so two four foot sections are ok.
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From: "Edward Przybylek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BlindHandyMan"
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:13 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Gener
Quincy, Florida. This is about 40 miles from the state capital Tallahassee,
Florida.
thanks, Little Freak([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:01 PM
To: blindhandyma
I use them now for self protection only used to do hunting with them. Some
of them I use to shoot just for the fun of it. I still do that with most of
them. I do have a conceal weapon permit. and I do Carrie one, most of the
time but especial around the holidays.
thanks, Little Freak([EMAIL PROT
This is more of a curiosity question, but why would you want to insolate a
garage door? I could see the benefits if you intend to spend long periods of
time in it and it is 0 degrees. Or if you were converting it into a room, that
would be another good reason. But then if you are going to go tha
Hi,
You might try washing a hole with a hose at least some of the way down. Feed
the hose down and run the rod along with it.
Copper is pretty soft, you'll mushroom that in an instant.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nan
We had a high of 55 to-day and I was bitching about being chilly.
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:06 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demos
Hi all,
After all your replies, I decided to ground my new generator. Better safe
then sorry. When the manual said that not grounding the generator could
pose the threat of electricution, it made me decide it was the best course
of action. I went to Home Depot to purchase the necessary supplie
You really trust Linda not to snow blow the entire neighborhood? *evil grin*
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of cheetah
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:28 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Snow Blo
That must be rough./ It did rain in North Carolina today but it was only 50 at
most. We'd have had a bunch of snow considering the amount of rain. But let's
not rub it in too bad for those that only have 2 seasons. Winter and just
before winter...
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From: tune
Standard depth is 27 from there it depends on wings and all. I'm not near mine
right now but it's over 44 wide.
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From: Matt
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] table saw safety accessories
Here, in San Clemente, it only got to 63 during the day and at night it
plunge all the way down to 45 degrees. B! I had to take off my sandals
and put on socks.
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I really don't remember what kind my second one is.
I am thinking deewalt, hah, bad spelling.
But, anyway, it has the folding x like legs on it?
I almost bought one with 2 wheels, and a pick up and move like a dolly type set
up and man I still wish I had done that.
I still remember my brother sell
Alright then everyone from Virginia south help David out and feel bad about the
weather. We're in a drought here. I still don't want snow even in a drought
though... It always makes people up North feel better when we get it too.
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From: David Ferrin
To: bl
Johnstown, and yes if anybody feels bad for us northern guys that's fine.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
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From: RJ
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationFW: Accessible Devices Way
Dave,
What part of Pa. For today in Northwest Pa. we are getting blasted.
RJ
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From: David Ferrin
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 20:58
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationFW: Accessible Devices Way
Finder
Does it help if I feel bad for you?
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From: David Ferrin
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostrationFW: Accessible Devices Way
Finder GPS Demonstration Sunday
Pennsylvani
Pennsylvania, and believe me if it were possible I'd send you the truck load I
dug out of my driveway this afternoon.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
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From: Bob Kennedy
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHan
If you'd send it out as a post I'd appreciate it.
Which part of the country are you in? I'm guessing you're talking about snow
and ice.
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From: David Ferrin
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHa
Don't worry if we call you Mat you won't be confused with a name like you
use...
What do you do with guns. I know the resistance first hand that a blind guy
with a gun causes.
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From: "Little Freak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:31 PM
Subj
They also have a showroom in MO somewhere. I live in North Carolina. I
emailed them about putting hands on their products and they sent one back that
said they will send me names of 3 people in my area that are customers. It's
up to me to contact them and find out if they are willing to show
Mat,
Where are you from?
Just curious.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
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From: "Little Freak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:31 P
just being able to do most everything they can just as good or better, but
with out sight. Especially using power tools and doing target practice with
my guns. I also pretty good with a knife as well as cooking that really get
them that I'm able to cook.
thanks, Little Freak([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Hi, you all can call me Matthew if you want if their is another Matt on the
list. or you can call me peewee if you desire. or little Matt or just call
me Presnell. I say peewee or Little Matt because I'm not a real big man. I
stand about 5 feet tall and weight in at 140 Lbs. So that is where the
l
Would sure like that. I think I'll go ahead an buy one anyway but ...
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
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From: David Ferrin
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups
My guard is the curved nose type. I like the splitter on it because
I think it helps keep the board straight.
earlier, Dale Leavens, wrote:
>There used to be two designs of blade guard, there may still be, I
>don't know, I haven't been looking for a long time. One sort, the
>earlier type had
Yes it was recorded, I believe it will be posted in a couple of days. Remind me
to get you the link if you want me to that is. I missed it myself as we were
outside digging out of natures most recent disaster.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
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From: Dale Leavens
To:
I would like to see the same as well.
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:16 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [BlindHandyMan] Wayfinder demostra
Just wondering if anyone recorded this programme and could make it available?
Thanks.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
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From: David Ferrin
To: blindhan
Bob, I have the Grizzly G1022SM I believe that the SM represents standard
model.
I am not sure where you live but Grizzly has two showrooms in the U.S. One
in the west and the other here in Pa. about 1 - 1/2 hour drive. The showroom
is unbelievable. I think over 10,000 items on display. I have t
Norm Abrams built one on one of his programmers a couple of years ago I thought
would be pretty good, like yours with a solid cast base his has a pretty broad
base, a box within a box with a threaded rod and wrench arrangement to raise
and lower it. He made several fairly wide rollers on the top
I must admit when this user name came across my desk as a new member of the
list it did cause me to take a second look, never the less welcome Matthew.
David Ferrin
www.jaws-users.com
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To:
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:21 PM
Subjec
hi the best way i have found to do is is to have linda sit in the
warm blazer using a frs radio telling me wich way to go.
i put the radio in an outer pocket and run an ear phone under my coat
and up out the collar under the hat.
i do about 40 feet up and back about 5 times then she pulls forwar
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From: "RJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] new member
> Welcome to the list.
> RJ
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> From: "Little Freak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 13:41
Mathew... welcome my man...
What is your favorite thing to do that freeks out the sighted bozos we are
surrounded with
Larry?
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 2:18 PM
To: blindhandyma
I just know if I called him little freak someone that didn't see his email
would get all over me because of what I called him. Doesn't matter if he said
to or not...
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From: Lenny McHugh
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:17
Hey you or Mat.
Welcome to the list. I tend to agree with Bob. I would rather call you "hey
you" than your user id.
Lenny
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From: "Bob Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] new member
There's at least 1
Well the one that I have has been discontinued. It was about $350 several
years ago. I don't remember the model number but it was the entry level
unit. I am very impressed with it. Not too long ago I wanted to upgrade the
miter gauge but did not have to. A friend looked at mine and it was off
a
There's at least 1 other Mat on here but I think I'd rather use that name.
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From: "Little Freak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:40 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] new member
> Matt or Littlefreak will work what ever you are more comfortable
If you are building it on the cheep and keep your compression less than 10
to 1 the cast crank will get you by.
Secondly Ask the hot rodders who they use don't ask the machine shops who
spends money with them.
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
you might want to look at getting a vertical table saw.
thanks, Little Freak([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of GLENN PERMAR
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:01 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Matt or Littlefreak will work what ever you are more comfortable with. or if
their is more than one matt on the list. and you want to call me matt just
use Matthew instead. what make you all more comfortable.
thanks, Little Freak([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: blindhandyman@
Which one did you get? I was looking at 2 Grizzly saws but there wasn't anyone
in my area they could recommend to let me look at the saw.
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From: Lenny McHugh
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHan
Hey Glen my old beep ball team mate... I just bought the Craftsman 22124
model. They have one on display at Sears in Southpoint. It is what they are
calling a hybrid saw which makes it more like a cabinet saw. It is made by a
company called Orion which is a bunch of people that got together
Back in the days when I had to clear snow I had big driveways too. And I
haven't had light perception for longer than I can remember. What I did to
start with was drag the blower close to the road end of the driveway. I would
go back and forth across the end until I cleared out a section 6 to
welcome from Bruce in new jersey incased in ice.
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Hi Glenn,
I have a Grizzly and really like it especially since I upgraded the belt. I
installed the power twist link belt and the saw now has no vibration. Hard
to believe that a belt can make the difference. With this new belt a nickel
will stand on end while the saw is running and my cuts seem
Welcome to the list. You'll find there are people that hang out and never
say anything. And people like me that probably say too much. But that's
what makes up a list. Now how do you like being addressed. I'd feel a bit
funny calling you a little freak...
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From:
Hi guys,
I have always kept the guard on my table saw mainly because of the
anti-kickback pieces on either side. About the only problems I have had with
the guards is if it gets off center of the blade and then whatever you are
cutting hits the support piece of the guard instead of the cut slot
If they are serious I would tell them to pick up an after market crank instead
of messing with the stock cast model. And you might want to check into who is
good at balancing an engine in your part of the world. The people that do a
real good job at balancing are few and far between.
Only
Hello,
I have two roller stands and only like one of them. The first one that I
purchased the support legs fold for easy storage. I think that it is a little
too flimsy. the other has a cast pedestal base and I really like this one but
it is a little harder to store when not in use.
When I purch
Welcome to the list.
RJ
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From: "Little Freak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 13:41
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] new member
>I have been joining in on conversation here for a few hours now. I have
> totally forgot my manners and have not introduce
Good luck! I haven't figured a way to blow the snow yet. I am able to use the
blower only after my wife builds up the snow along side of the drive. Than they
tell me the driveway looks like a drunken barber did the job.
RJ
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From: Andrew J. LaPointe
To: Blindhan
I wanted to know something more basic than that. How would these things get
up stairs?
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 10:26 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHa
Hi, I have a snowblower but, I need to ask you on some techniques on how to
use it. I am blind with no light perception. I have a somewhat large
driveway and would like to get some ideas on how to clear what is in front
of me. I guess, I just need some ideas..
I have been joining in on conversation here for a few hours now. I have
totally forgot my manners and have not introduce my self. So here it is. My
real name is Matt Presnell and I'm new to the list. I use the handle
Littlefreak and that email address till I feel comfortable using my real
name, I h
I am using a program called "desktop dyno" on my laptop If you don't mind
dinking around with it is basically Jaws friendly.
It makes a fair reference but I sure as hell wouldn't trust it. I used it to
develop my El Camino small block stroker motor and it under-shot my THP
number by 60 horses and
This is a pretty good article.
The one issue is blade height, he is quite right in my experience in that low
height does increase risk of kick-back but with these modern carbide tipped
blades they often make a cleaner cut with less tear-out.
Walking a long board into the saw and keeping it agai
I remember weather like that. Right now it's about 40 degrees out and I'm
complaining about the cold...
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From: Dale Leavens
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] tips, tricks, and knowledge
I don't much like ripping sheets of thin stock, quarter inch ply for drawer
bottoms for example with a circular saw but heavier and stiffer sheets are a
real bear to wrestle about even on a good sized cabinet saw.
This time of year is a bit more trouble but in the summer I have a table out on
t
The best thing I've found to get labels off anything but fabric is good old
lighter fluid. Most people don't want a gallon of this stuff around the
house, so the small cans of lighter fluid are handy. If by chance you like
quantity, get a gallon of naphtha. Same thing it just won't say Zippo
The smell will wash out, I was thinking about things one might have about the
house for the purpose though, there are any number of specific products out
there to be purchased, most of which contain exactly the chemistry, petroleum,
alcohol or acetone only packaged in very small tubes at substan
Try www.virtualengine2000.com
I haven't checked the compatibility with Jaws but this site has lots of
packages from free to several hundred dollars.
I'm guessing you want a "what if I change this" dyno program? I used to have
one from a cam maker that let you plug in CID and different cam sp
Oh yes and get in the habit of protecting your face when bending down around
those damn things, the top end of a drift cutter in the kisser is a distinctly
unpleasant thing to do.
Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Skype DaleLeavens
Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at
There used to be two designs of blade guard, there may still be, I don't know,
I haven't been looking for a long time. One sort, the earlier type had a slot
with a knob through it. You raised the guard to be just high enough to clear
the top of the board being cut then locked it there. Many user
yep, that would be a good one.
thanks, Little Freak([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:54 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [B
that would work for sliding the piece of wood to be cut if it was not
thicker than the blade would raise. Also it would not help to keep it
straight. I think some kind of miter slide that would slide in a grove in
the saw table with a clamp hook to it that way you could keep the piece that
you are
I think he was asking about a board the was long and narrow. The tool I was
talking about holds a long board from raising up off the blade until it clears
the last hold down and keeps your hands away from the blade.
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From: John Schwery
To: blindhandyman@yahoo
When I bought my table saw, the guard wouldn't stay up out of the way
because it has a metal strip that prevented it from staying up. I
took pliers and bent that strip so I could raise the guard for
measuring and put the guard down when I am ready to cut. My guard
doesn't flop and stays cente
Ah yes the good old trip hazards. I used to work in a marina that had a fork
lift. They never parked it in the same place and the forks were always at a
different level. Catch one of those on the shins to start your day... I drove
the stupid thing out the door and left it in the field next t
This isn't going to bother your skin. And the smell isn't all that bad
either. I believe the original question was how to get glue off of a towel
or something. Some of the suggestions were to use alcohol, acetone and some
other pretty rough chemicals. I'd worry more about the smell and irrit
When I got cut with a friend's chain saw, everyone in the emergency room wanted
to put in their 2 cents worth about how I shouldn't be running a chain saw.
After about the third person, and I was in a good bit of pain so I didn't care
much about politeness I asked if I had forgotten and asked f
Good idea.
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From: RJ
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Drift cutters
Bob,
Not being sure of what I am doing, I decided to wait until Monday and call
Snow Blowers direct and have the
Dale,
Thanks for the clarification on the drift cutters. For up to five years ago I
lived where a little Torro 20 inch blower was all I needed. Than I had a time
of mental relapse and decided to build a home 650 feet off the road, and you
guessed it, right dap smack in the middle of snow belt c
Dale's question was about cutting a board that is bigger than the
table. I suppose one could clamp a board under the board to be cut,
sliding the clamped board along the table.
earlier, Bob Kennedy, wrote:
>A few years back I went to the Woodworking Show in Charlotte, NC.
>One of the brothers
RJ,
That is exactly correct. Often they will have a sort of corrugation stamped
into them in the long axis to add rigidity. these are not new, they have been
included on snow throwers or blowers what ever your preferred term since I was
first aware of them nearly fifty years now. The flat side
yes, they do but I don't know if you would want to put that on something
that you are going to use on your body. I know you can wash them but the
residue might still be their an agitate the skin not talking about getting
the smell that it would have out of the stuff that the label was on or is
on.
Hi dale.
You use the fence, and the pusher, which most sighted people will throw aside.
I am not great with large sheets of wood, but they have roller stands, saw
horses and all that which you can try as props for the wood.
I have two roller stands which someone gave me.
I haven't used them enough
Bob,
Not being sure of what I am doing, I decided to wait until Monday and call Snow
Blowers direct and have them instruct me on how to install them. After feeling
around the blower, my guess is they mount on the sides of the blower and stick
out like a set of horns, breaking up the drift. But
Hey,
Any of you out there know of an accessible dyno software. I got asked to
rebuild a Chevy SB, and I want to plug in a few different combos. The block
is the block they used for the 69 302, 327, and 350. Nope, it isn't the 302
though. Not sure if it is the 327, or the 350, but the bore is th
A few years back I went to the Woodworking Show in Charlotte, NC. One of the
brothers that own one of the many companies at the show was there demonstrating
his system for safety and accuracy. The system is called the Grip-Tite system.
Basically it is a long piece of steel about 4 inches tall
This sounds like a new idea from when I had to put them together. Hold 1 of
the bars up to the shroud for the auger. The length should match either the
height on the sides or the width across the front. I'm guessing they would go
across the front to keep you from climbing a drift like I was t
Wal-Mart sells something called Goo. It comes in a bottle and is very good
at getting glue and adhesives off. Don't confuse this with Goop which they
also sell. Goop being the soap used to get grease off your hands.
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From: "Little Freak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Se
I'm sure those living in snow country, or at least in the Northeast remember
the blizzard of 1977. January 27th to be exact.
I had a shop running outside of Buffalo at that time.The day before the
blizzard I took in 4 snowblowers. You would think that would make clean up a
breeze since
You can test for radiation using a neon tube.
Hold it near to the microwave and see if it lights up.
Use a light probe if needed of course!
David
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Little
Freak
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007
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