Re: [blink-dev] Intent to remove: zoom CSS property

2023-04-24 Thread Malte Nuhn
Not to our knowledge, but we’ll dig deep into this. However, I can confirm that simply using transform: scale is not one of them: I’ve just done this in our app, and immediately run into the same issues we’d seen the last time we tried: scroll performance is awful, there is scroll jumpiness (

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Partitioning Storage, Service Workers, and Communication APIs

2023-04-24 Thread Chris Fredrickson
blink-dev to bcc, +Chrome First-Party Sets team for FPS discussion I don't think anything related to FPS would prevent that from working. Note that since FPS's assumption is that users do not directly interact with service domains, but the Storage Access API requires user interaction in order to

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Private Network Access preflight requests for subresources

2023-04-24 Thread Scott Weber
Grammar correction, sorry: "a brief tutorial to a newbie on *the status of* PNA and..." On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 2:13:59 PM UTC-5 Scott Weber wrote: > Forgive me if this is not the correct place to ask... > I seem to have stumbled across this conversation trying to find answers > (this thre

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Private Network Access preflight requests for subresources

2023-04-24 Thread Scott Weber
Forgive me if this is not the correct place to ask... I seem to have stumbled across this conversation trying to find answers (this thread looks like an email archive chain). I am new to this platform of getting early information about upcoming changes. Originally, PNA was supposed to "go live"

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Partitioning Storage, Service Workers, and Communication APIs

2023-04-24 Thread Yoav Weiss
Apologies for my slowness! On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 2:01 AM Mike Taylor wrote: > On 4/4/23 11:51 PM, Yoav Weiss wrote: > > Thanks for working on this!! > Aligning with Safari and Firefox on this means that this is important not > just for user privacy, but also from an interop perspective. It also

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: Deprecate module size limit for WebAssembly.Module()

2023-04-24 Thread Alex Russell
Hey Andreas, First, I deeply appreciate your willingness to do the work to get us data. I'm generally interested in understanding the potential for modules to create main-thread jank. If we accept the CWV INP threshold of ~200ms, would like to make sure that for the vast majority of users (P9

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to remove: zoom CSS property

2023-04-24 Thread Yoav Weiss
Are there alternative ways to achieve the same effect that don't suffer from blurriness or other UX issues? On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 6:25 PM Malte Nuhn wrote: > Similarly, online web design and authoring tools (like Framer, or our OSS > project at Utopia) rely on the zoom property for working whe

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Partitioning Storage, Service Workers, and Communication APIs

2023-04-24 Thread 'Elijah Grey' via blink-dev
Our plan is to also register something similar to sync.transcend.io on the public suffix list and publish an acceptable use policy. If we don't get accepted then we will of course need to require customers to configure their own sync coordination domains (manually hosted or CNAME-backed). Does

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to remove: zoom CSS property

2023-04-24 Thread Malte Nuhn
Similarly, online web design and authoring tools (like Framer, or our OSS project at Utopia) rely on the zoom property for working when "zoomed in". In Firefox (w/ scale as fallback) the result is a degraded (eg blurry) experience - sometimes severely so, especially when shadows, serif fonts, a

[blink-dev] Re: Intent to Ship: Partitioning Storage, Service Workers, and Communication APIs

2023-04-24 Thread Chris Fredrickson
Hi Elijah, Sorry for the late response here, just wanted to make sure you were aware of one more thing related to First-Party Sets (inline): On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:07:37 PM UTC-4 Elijah Grey wrote: Hi Chris, I appreciate your response. Here are my responses to your points: 1. Yes, we

[blink-dev] Flat tree in Blink

2023-04-24 Thread Kiara
At what point is the complete flat tree created in blink and how are we able to traverse through all the nodes if Blink doesn't store nor maintain a flat tree data structure in the memory? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. To unsubs

[blink-dev] Re: Intent-to-Ship: MediaRecorder keyframe configurability

2023-04-24 Thread Henrik Boström
I was present when the WG discussed this pull request and can confirm that representatives of Apple, Microsoft, Firefox and Google were present when the PR was merged. This API solves problems relating to variable frame rate tracks and being able to ensure key frames in the streams. Allowing imp

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to remove: zoom CSS property

2023-04-24 Thread Christoph Nakazawa
In a previous response it was stated that the removal of this property leads to only a small amount of code being removed, which I assume also means that there is little impact on reducing complexity in the engine. Maybe I missed it but is there an in-depth explanation of the intention and impa

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: removing the five-minute rule for

2023-04-24 Thread 'Noam Rosenthal' via blink-dev
Following up on this. I conducted a finch trial, which (expectedly) has shown no statistically significant performance impact. Note that the flag which the finch is based on only tests pages that attempted to reuse a prefetch. I would like to proceed with removing the 5 minute rule. Would be happ

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Re: [blink-dev] Intent to remove: zoom CSS property

2023-04-24 Thread Noam Helfman
> > Thanks for sharing Noam, that's good to know! So is Excel Online > unsupported or completely broken for Firefox users then? The feature is disabled for Firefox. Since it represents a very small fraction of our users it is less of a concern. On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 5:04 PM Rick Byers wrote:

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to remove: zoom CSS property

2023-04-24 Thread Rick Byers
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 9:50 AM Noam Helfman wrote: > I would like to point out that Microsoft Excel Online utilizes zoom CSS > property heavily to perform the Excel grid zoom operations. > Removing it would completely break our zoom functionality in the product > and impact 100s of millions of u

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to remove: zoom CSS property

2023-04-24 Thread Noam Helfman
I would like to point out that Microsoft Excel Online utilizes zoom CSS property heavily to perform the Excel grid zoom operations. Removing it would completely break our zoom functionality in the product and impact 100s of millions of users. On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 10:42:17 PM UTC+3 Ch

Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Ship: removing the five-minute rule for

2023-04-24 Thread Yoav Weiss
My LGTM still stands. Glad we're not seeing any related regressions! On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 7:43 AM Noam Rosenthal wrote: > Following up on this. > I conducted a finch trial, which (expectedly) has shown no statistically > significant performance impact. > Note that the flag which the finch is