installing bsd with speech

2017-03-16 Thread Kelly Prescott
Ok, there is not a link, here is what I do. Make sure you are logged into your system at a text console with speakup running. ***DO*** not do this in a X session or it will not work. I create a image file. qemu-img create -o size=16G -f raw openbsd.img Change to taste. Here is the qemu install

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I never noticed this, but I never did a side by side comparison between Vinux 5 and Ubuntu 14.04. I suppose it's possible the Vinux team commented out some repositories available in Ubuntu, but I'd be surprised if this were the case. I never had any issues enabling or adding any Ubuntu reposito

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Eric Oyen
ok, can you send me the link with how to do that? I would certainly appreciate it a lot. -eric from the central office of the Technomage Guild, Access technology Division 6. On Mar 16, 2017, at 8:30 PM, Kelly Prescott wrote: > I use BSD all the time. > I use Qemu to set them up. > This gives me

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Kelly Prescott
I use BSD all the time. I use Qemu to set them up. This gives me the text consoles and I can install them and speakup does the work. I do NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD all that way. once they are installed, I just ssh to them. On Thu, 16 Mar 2017, Eric Oyen wrote: that was one of the things

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Jeffery Mewtamer
As someone who has never used Vinux and hasn't used Ubuntu since around Lucid, the complaint about Vinux having fewer features might be related to bundled software. As someone who's quite comfortable with the command line and package management via Aptitude, I actually prefer distros that install o

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Eric Oyen
well, it does seem confusing. However, when vinux changed over to canonical (or broke from it, I am not sure), a lot of changes got made. I did a comparison of the 14.04 LTS version of Ubuntu and the build of Vinux that was its direct equivalent and the amount of stuff available in the software

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Eric Oyen
hmmm. good idea there. :) btw, I wouldn't mind compiling a version of Linux to operate on my Braille Sense U2 (which currently uses windows CE 6). Unfortunately, getting hardware specs out of HIMS International just isn't possible right now. It's like they are treating the device as some ultra

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Eric Oyen
that was one of the things I tried. I never could get it to work. Of course, someone may have properly ported it since I last tried some 4 years ago. the only thing severely lacking in OpenBSD is braille/speech support in the installation. I mean, seriously, its a text based console environment

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Larry Hart
Well Christopher, I think he means that if they switched to Fedora, many of the packages may not be available. Myself, in 2010 I picked Debian as packages are newer. Hart ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailm

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Jeffery Mewtamer
-- Sincerely, Jeffery Wright President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa. Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/bli

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm a bit confused by your message. You say that Vinux is lacking a lot of useful features. You point out the large software repository available to Ubuntu. vinux is based on Ubuntu, so everything you get with Ubuntu you get with Vinux. On 16/03/17 14:42, Eric Oyen wrote: well, emotionalism a

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Devin Prater
My biggest problem with Fedora is the lack of packages. Coming from Arch, and the AUR, I'm used to having *all* of the Audacious plugins, including crystalizer and such, but Fedora only came with a few of them. Also, for packages like Emacspeak, you have to build the dependencies, DND builddep,

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Joel Roth
Eric Oyen wrote: > ...we, as a community, don't have an actual unified distro > to call our own. Sure, Vinux is a decent distro, but it's > lacking a lot of useful features outside of accessibility. > I, myself, use Ubuntu primarily because of the larger > software repository. I have also had to

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I think you can build brltty for bsd. But i am not sure. And that requiers a braille display. /A > 16 mars 2017 kl. 21:57 skrev Eric Oyen : > > and now we see the crux of the issue. its called a lack of proper attention > to the problem. > > this is the biggest holdup to a lot of us blind fo

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Eric Oyen
and now we see the crux of the issue. its called a lack of proper attention to the problem. this is the biggest holdup to a lot of us blind folks, lack of coherent information. It's most telling in the local activities and events arena, but it shows up in technology as well. SOunds like it's ti

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Eric Oyen
well, emotionalism aside, a lot of what you have to say appears based in the realistic fact that we, as a community, don't have an actual unified distro to call our own. Sure, Vinux is a decent distro, but it's lacking a lot of useful features outside of accessibility. I, myself, use Ubuntu pri

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Jeffery Mewtamer
I haven't used Vinux or Sonar, and what I've read of Ubuntu's main line development has turned me off to anything that uses an Ubuntu base, but probably my biggest want on the accessibility front would be to see the Adriane accessibility suite ported upstream from Knoppix to vanilla Debian and then

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Fernando Botelho
John, F123, the project I lead has cooperated with Sonar and Vinux in the past and will probably do so again in the future, but I did not know about The International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists (IAVIT). I will be in touch in the next couple of weeks to bounce off a few ideas

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread John G Heim
It's funny you should say it's long overdue for there to be a blindness related non-profit. I was part of a group who created exactly that several years ago. After much discussion, we called ourselves The International Association Of Visually Impaired Technologists or IAVIT. See www.iavit.org.

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I think we should work to make popular distributions accessible, and I think that's still the goal of the Vinux team, but I still think it makes sense to have custom distributions for the blind. It'll take time and resources to get changes pushed up stream and blind new comers to Linux, or even

Re: Sonar GNU/Linux merges with Vinux

2017-03-16 Thread Tony Baechler
Be warned that my comments are most likely unpopular and controversial. See below. I'm not really interested in discussing this further, so don't expect a response. On 3/15/2017 3:30 AM, Kyle wrote: Sonar merges with the Vinux Project. Well, this is indeed unfortunate. First, it was never s