Sometimes that slogan about the perfect being the enemy of the good is
useful, sometimes not. In this instance, I'm inclined to think it's not.
Sighted people as a group disagree on a great many things, and vary a
great deal on the willingness to compromise. It's the same with blind
folks, a
So you are asserting that users would prefer insert+t to F12? Suppose I
were to provide you with evidence that that is untrue. Would that make
any difference to you? Suppose I were to show you that the majority of
users would prefer there to be a standard set of shortcut keys for the
most commo
That's what I've thought. Also, it seems to me as a matter of equal
access that we should have speech and Braille access as close to the
time as possible when sighted folks can see action on their monitors.
If that requires that our speech/Braille output software be in kernel
space, then it sh
All of this criticicism of Speakup, however valid, avoids the fact that
Speakup has nonetheless been available as a staging module with Debian,
for example, as well as Arch, if I'm not mistaken. It is not available
with Fedora. It then became unavailable even from rpmfusion, and I've
not hear
Is there a set of instructions for doing this?
Al
On 04/24/2017 04:46 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
This is Luke Yelavich, reply below.
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 09:23:19PM AEST, Linux for blind general discussion
wrote:
Screen readers cannot give boot messages anyways, with so
But the world doesn't have a problem with too much unity. You say,
"unity behind the wrong philosophy very well might give us a worse
world, not a better one." But it's not as if that has been a huge
problem for the blind community, developers of accessibility software,
or the combination of th
I know next to nothing about the NFB and ACB, and I could've sworn
there was an AFB in there somewhere, but unless one organization is
hoarding resources for their own members, refuse to let members be
part of other organizations, or abuse IP law to the point only those
willing to jump through thei
The problem with having 2 different advocacy groups is that turf wars
are almost inevitable. Of course, there is also an issue with
efficiency, each group has to spend money and volunteer resources on
things like offices, employees, web sites, etc. But the main problem is
personality conflicts
For what it's worth, I'm all for abolishing currency and avoided cash
transactions as much as possible even before I went blind(and I think
it criminal that credit card companies are allowed to charge merchants
for the privilege of accepting payment with their cards). That said,
that US nickels, di
I just don't understand how you can fail to see how judgemental you are
being. My hardware speech synth is not obsolete as proven by the very
fact that I use it all the time and the speakup code is being actively
developed as we speak. It's just a different choice I made. I have very
good reas
believe me, both groups are equally as bad, and for differing reasons and over
differing issues.
the problem is that the ACB is a split off group from the NFB (sometime in the
late 1960's). THis was due to political differences and those differences still
exist today.
now, one of the items that
I don't think I disagree with you much, but I made that point and others
in the context of a lot of messages. Also, I did not say that there is
too much unity, only that some kinds of unity are better than others.
Al
On 04/25/2017 11:22 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
But t
The ACB's lawsuit against the U.S. Department of the Treasury to make
them make money accessible was already flawed to say the least.
According to the United States Constitution, the power to design money
has been delegated to Congress, and the Department of the Treasury is
only responsible for
The decision to disable the staging tree in Fedora has nothing to do
with a lack of interest in accessibility. It has everything to do with
security and stability, as staging is considered by the kernel
developers to be unstable and not fully known to be secure.
Regarding documentation, I have
According to Jeffery Wright:
they're only against the proposal because they didn't propose it)
Having been a member of the ACB and also attended NFB meetings in the
past, this is the attitude I've seen on both sides. The NFB does seem to
make their positions that match that philosophy more publi
NFB members at a training center alienated me through their rigid
insistence on straight canes and failure to account for the
multiply-disabled or congenitally blind in training methods. I also
couldn't stomach their idea that I should run all my words and actions
through the "how does this make al
Maybe the Debian kernel's less stable than Fedora's, but I've never
heard that. Then again, there are a lot of things I've not heard.
(grimace)
I wasn't talking about outdated documentation, but the ability to get to
it in the first place from
www.fedoraproject.org
or, more precisely, f
Actually, Congress had already directed the Treasury Department to make
money accessible. That was what the lawsuit was about. And given that
the ACB prevailed, I would have to say it is fairly silly for you to
claim it was flawed or that it was a publicity stunt -- unless you think
the Supreme
yeah, they kept trying to make me use "their" brand of cane. One small problem,
the tips would wear out too fast. Another problem, the fastening screw would
fall out.
Somehow, I think their idea of a cane is simply a brand one. Sure, its
lightweight, but its also a bit too flexible. It also doe
I agree with this post. Sure it would be great if all blind people
agreed with one another, especially when it came to issues concerning
the blind, but I think this is unrealistic. In this sense, the blind are
no different then the general public, and as nice as it would be if the
blind were be
Nobody said anything about all blind people agreeing about anything. The
issue is whether we are hurting ourselves with our inability to
cooperate. Even if you don't believe that the infighting in the blind
community is worse than it is in the general public, that's no reason to
just accept the
I actually didn't make that assertion. All I stated was that we just
shouldn't assume that the way JAWS does something is automatically the
best way something could be done. Let the developers come up with new
and innovative ways of doing things, such as new key bindings or totally
different wa
Sometimes being inflexible is a good thing, sometimes a bad one. It's
often but not always easy to know when to do which. Some NFB rehab
centers have been more sensible than others in this department.
I'm normally a guide dog user, but when I use a cane, the NFB straight
cane is for me th
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