Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?)

2015-03-30 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 29 Mar, 2015, at 20:36, Pedro Tumusok wrote: > > Dslreports got a new speedtester up, anybody know Justin or some of the other > people over there? > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest > > Maybe somebody on here could even lend a hand in getting them to implement > features like ping

Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?)

2015-03-30 Thread Pedro Tumusok
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Jonathan Morton wrote: > > > On 29 Mar, 2015, at 20:36, Pedro Tumusok > wrote: > > > > Dslreports got a new speedtester up, anybody know Justin or some of the > other people over there? > > > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest > > > > Maybe somebody on here co

Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?)

2015-03-30 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 30 Mar, 2015, at 16:56, Pedro Tumusok wrote: > > Also would you mind doing another test and share the link for result, so he > can check closer? I still have the result link for the earlier one: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/193440 Here’s another result without using the w

Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?)

2015-03-30 Thread Pedro Tumusok
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Jonathan Morton wrote: > > > On 30 Mar, 2015, at 16:56, Pedro Tumusok > wrote: > > > > Also would you mind doing another test and share the link for result, so > he can check closer? > > I still have the result link for the earlier one: > > http://www.dsl

Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites

2015-03-30 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Jonathan Morton writes: > The number-one desirable feature is to carry on measuring the latency > while the throughput test is ongoing. This is relevant to anyone who > wants to make a VoIP call or play an online game while using the > connection for something else. If you have several people in

Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?)

2015-03-30 Thread Dave Taht
I think the most effective thing would be to add bufferbloat testing infrastructure to the web browsers themselves. There are already plenty of tools for measuring web performance (whyslow for firefox, the successor to chrome web page benchmarker) more or less built in... measuring actual network p

Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?)

2015-03-30 Thread Pedro Tumusok
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I think the most effective thing would be to add bufferbloat testing > infrastructure to the web browsers themselves. There are already > plenty of tools for measuring web performance (whyslow for firefox, > the successor to chrome web page benc

Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?)

2015-03-30 Thread Livingood, Jason
Could be via a browser plugin? Regards, Jason Jason Livingood Comcast - Internet Services > On Mar 30, 2015, at 11:55, Dave Taht wrote: > > I think the most effective thing would be to add bufferbloat testing > infrastructure to the web browsers themselves. There are already > plenty of tools

Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?)

2015-03-30 Thread Pedro Tumusok
Justin has signed up for this list, I will just copy the question he sent me directly over at DSLReports and let you chime in with your views. -- I've subscribed to the list. Currently the 'saturation' meter is pinging away at an unrelated server ( dslreports.com) probably it should ping away,

Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?)

2015-03-30 Thread Jonathan Morton
> Currently the 'saturation' meter is pinging away at an unrelated server > (dslreports.com) > probably it should ping away, and with higher frequency, at one of the > servers streaming data in? because then there are more likely to be filled > buffers en-route? > or are the bloated buffers main

Re: [Bloat] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?)

2015-03-30 Thread Jesper Dangaard Brouer
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:05:19 +0200 Pedro Tumusok wrote: [...] > That is feature creep, we originally discussed having continuous ping > measurement under load. > New ideas not so welcome ;) I agree, we just want Justin (http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest) to also measure and report on ping/l