Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in

2015-05-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jonathan, On May 6, 2015, at 22:25 , Jonathan Morton wrote: > So, as a proposed methodology, how does this sound: > > Determine a reasonable ballpark figure for typical codec and jitter-buffer > delay (one way). Fix this as a constant value for the benchmark. But we can do better,

Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in

2015-05-06 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 6 May 2015, Jonathan Morton wrote: So, as a proposed methodology, how does this sound: Determine a reasonable ballpark figure for typical codec and jitter-buffer delay (one way). Fix this as a constant value for the benchmark. Commercial grade VoIP systems running in a controlled envi

Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in

2015-05-06 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Jonathan Morton writes: > Compare these totals to twice the ITU benchmark figures, rate > accordingly, and plot on a map. A nice way of visualising this can be 'radius of reach within n milliseconds'. Or, 'number of people reachable within n ms'. This paper uses that (or something very similar)

Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in

2015-05-06 Thread Jonathan Morton
So, as a proposed methodology, how does this sound: Determine a reasonable ballpark figure for typical codec and jitter-buffer delay (one way). Fix this as a constant value for the benchmark. Measure the baseline network delays (round trip) to various reference points worldwide. Measure the maxi

Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in

2015-05-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jim, hi List, On May 6, 2015, at 17:30 , Jim Gettys wrote: > > > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:50 AM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Simon, > > On May 6, 2015, at 07:08 , Simon Barber wrote: > > > Hi Sebastian, > > > > My numbers are what I've personally come up with after working for many

Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in

2015-05-06 Thread Jim Gettys
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:50 AM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Simon, > > On May 6, 2015, at 07:08 , Simon Barber wrote: > > > Hi Sebastian, > > > > My numbers are what I've personally come up with after working for many > years with VoIP - they have no other basis. > > I did not intend t

Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in

2015-05-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Simon, On May 6, 2015, at 07:08 , Simon Barber wrote: > Hi Sebastian, > > My numbers are what I've personally come up with after working for many years > with VoIP - they have no other basis. I did not intend to be-little such numbers at all, I just wanted to propose that we eithe