Re: [Bloat] any fedora 22 users out there?

2015-06-02 Thread Dave Taht
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > Dave Taht said: >> what does >> tc qdisc show >> say? > > [murray@fed ~]$ tc qdisc show > qdisc mq 0: dev eth0 root > qdisc fq_codel 0: dev eth0 parent :1 limit 10240p flows 1024 quantum 1514 > target 5.0ms interval 100.0ms ecn > [murray@fed ~

Re: [Bloat] any fedora 22 users out there?

2015-06-02 Thread Hal Murray
Dave Taht said: > what does > tc qdisc show > say? [murray@fed ~]$ tc qdisc show qdisc mq 0: dev eth0 root qdisc fq_codel 0: dev eth0 parent :1 limit 10240p flows 1024 quantum 1514 target 5.0ms interval 100.0ms ecn [murray@fed ~]$ For reference, here is Fedora 21: [murray@glypnod ~]$ tc qdisc

[Bloat] good blog entry on codel from stanford CS244

2015-06-02 Thread Dave Taht
https://reproducingnetworkresearch.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/cs244-15-codel-controlling-delay-in-queues/ I am glad the codel patches for mahimahi resurfaced. I hope they fixed the infinite queue length problem that codebase had. I wish every uni had a CS244 class. -- Dave Täht What will it take

Re: [Bloat] [aqm] big science discovers sch_fq and pacing

2015-06-02 Thread Jonathan Morton
My favourite part of that is "disabling TSO leads to a doubling in throughput". In precisely the sort of situation that TSO was intended to help throughput. - Jonathan Morton ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.ne

Re: [Bloat] sqm-scripts on WRT1900AC

2015-06-02 Thread Pedro Tumusok
Again, my take on it. Mimo is using multipath to enhance signal and date rate. Basically multiple antennas for tx and rx to leverage multipath propogation. But its always between one ap and one client at the time, standard wifi stuff. Mu-mimo is the same mimo effect, but it can talk to multiple cl

Re: [Bloat] [aqm] big science discovers sch_fq and pacing

2015-06-02 Thread Simon Barber
Why would disabling TSO would have such a large impact when he also states that there is 32MB of buffer? Simon Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On May 31, 2015 10:08:24 PM Jonathan Morton wrote: My favourite part of that is "disabling TSO leads to a doubling in throu

[Bloat] I thought the diagram, at least, was a good start

2015-06-02 Thread Dave Taht
http://serverfault.com/questions/695541/reducing-bufferbloat-in-linux-web-server -- Dave Täht What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net http

[Bloat] big science discovers sch_fq and pacing

2015-06-02 Thread Dave Taht
https://fasterdata.es.net/host-tuning/linux/fair-queuing-scheduler/ -- Dave Täht What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.buf

Re: [Bloat] sqm-scripts on WRT1900AC

2015-06-02 Thread David Lang
I'm not sure what the difference bwtwen mimo and mu-mimo is, pointer please? David Lang On Fri, 29 May 2015, Pedro Tumusok wrote: From my understanding you need an AP that supports mu-mimo and then you have different scenarios of of how to support clients. If the client supports mu-mimo then y

[Bloat] Flent now has its own mailing lists (and web site!)

2015-06-02 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Hi everyone Flent (The FLExible Network Tester, formerly netperf-wrapper) now has its own mailing lists. See https://lists.flent.org for the web interface and subscription options. This is running on mailman3, so fairly bleeding edge with a few rough spots, but should generally work. This means t

Re: [Bloat] sqm-scripts on WRT1900AC

2015-06-02 Thread David Lang
Ok, I think I'm understanding that unless the client is mimo enabled, mimo on the the AP doesn't do any good. I'm focused on the high density conference type setup and was wondering if going to these models would result in any mor effective airtime. It sounds like the answer is no. David Lang

Re: [Bloat] CDG

2015-06-02 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 26 May, 2015, at 14:31, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > I just read https://lwn.net/Articles/645115/ about CDG congestion control. > > After reading the article, I am left wondering how this kind of congestion > control mechanisms handles being exposed to a token bucket policer: > > http:/

Re: [Bloat] CDG

2015-06-02 Thread Bill Ver Steeg (versteb)
Firstly, these algorithms use drop and ECN in addition to delay to trigger congestion avoidance behaviors. Having said that.. Yup - using delay as a trigger for a host-based congestion control algorithm has merit when delay has an unambiguous correspondence to congestion. In a tail-drop worl

Re: [Bloat] sqm-scripts on WRT1900AC

2015-06-02 Thread Pedro Tumusok
>From my understanding you need an AP that supports mu-mimo and then you have different scenarios of of how to support clients. If the client supports mu-mimo then you get the "full" mi-mimo experience. If the client does not support it, you do not get the "full" mu-mimo experience for that or thos

Re: [Bloat] Announcing Flent (formerly netperf-wrapper) v0.10.0

2015-06-02 Thread Sebastian Moeller
On May 24, 2015, at 20:16 , Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: [...] > >> So the json.gz file format WAS readable and translatable by many web >> servers and browsers, flent is not (so far as I know, even with adding >> a mime type.) > > Yes, but .json.gz also makes it hard to distinguish from other

Re: [Bloat] sqm-scripts on WRT1900AC

2015-06-02 Thread Pedro Tumusok
Is the 1900AC MU-Mimo? If not then its still normal Airtime limitations, unless you consider concurrent 2x2 2.4GHz and 3x3 5GHz as a MU setup. Also there are very few devices with builtin 3x3 ac client. From the top of my head I can not think of one. Pedro On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:55 AM, David

[Bloat] bufferbloat and VOIP testimonial from Ring Cenrtral forums

2015-06-02 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I mentioned that this fellow could try OpenWrt to turn on SQM/fq_codel, and it worked as well as we all hoped/expected... See: https://community.ringcentral.com/ringcentral/topics/bufferbloat-and-voip?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter_by%5D=all&topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Breply

[Bloat] Fwd: bufferbloat and VOIP testimonial from Ring Cenrtral forums

2015-06-02 Thread Rich Brown
Folks, I mentioned that this fellow could try OpenWrt to turn on SQM/fq_codel, and it worked as well as we all hoped/expected... Nice Job to all who contributed to this. (In case no one has said anything nice to you today :-) Rich PS Direct link to the web page: https://community.ringcentra

[Bloat] delay gradient cc

2015-06-02 Thread Dave Taht
good to see this patch go by last week. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network/363729 there is a writeup in lwn.net but it won't be public for another week, if you are not a subscriber. https://lwn.net/Articles/645115/ -- Dave Täht What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? ht

[Bloat] any fedora 22 users out there?

2015-06-02 Thread Dave Taht
http://lwn.net/Articles/645868/ what does tc qdisc show say? -- Dave Täht Open Networking needs **Open Source Hardware** https://plus.google.com/u/0/+EricRaymond/posts/JqxCe2pFr67 ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.buff