Re: [Bloat] ADSL, ATM drivers, bloat, education confusion

2015-06-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jesper. On June 11, 2015 1:24:34 PM GMT+02:00, Jesper Dangaard Brouer bro...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 16:30:51 +0200 Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: On Jun 6, 2015, at 15:53 , Jonathan Morton chromati...@gmail.com wrote: You will need to set the overhead

Re: [Bloat] ADSL, ATM drivers, bloat, education confusion

2015-06-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Jesper, On June 11, 2015 1:16:15 PM GMT+02:00, Jesper Dangaard Brouer jbro...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 16:29:15 +0200 Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: On Jun 6, 2015, at 15:38 , Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant ke...@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk wrote: [...] The problem I have

Re: [Bloat] ADSL, ATM drivers, bloat, education confusion

2015-06-11 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 at 13:58 Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: I sort of did, but it takes a relative long time to gather data (typically around 3 hours) plus 15 minutes for the analysis. I am happy to share this with interested parties... I would definitely be interested in this for

Re: [Bloat] ADSL, ATM drivers, bloat, education confusion

2015-06-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Tristan, On Jun 11, 2015, at 16:14 , Tristan Seligmann mithra...@mithrandi.net wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 at 13:58 Sebastian Moeller moell...@gmx.de wrote: I sort of did, but it takes a relative long time to gather data (typically around 3 hours) plus 15 minutes for the analysis. I am

[Bloat] Bloat done correctly?

2015-06-11 Thread Benjamin Cronce
This is my first time using a mailing list, so I apologize if I break any etiquettes. Here is my situation. I have 100/100 via GPON, the ISP claims dedicated bandwidth defined as the port is not oversubscribed. I was told their core network can handle all customers at 100% of their provisioned

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] active sensing queue management

2015-06-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Daniel, thanks for the clarifications. On Jun 11, 2015, at 02:10 , Daniel Havey dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, maybe I can help clarify. Bufferbloat occurs in the slowest queue on the path. This is because the other queues are faster and will drain. AQM algorithms work only if they are

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] active sensing queue management

2015-06-11 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote: On Jun 11, 2015, at 03:05 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/06/15 21:54, Sebastian Moeller wrote: One solution would be if ISPs made sure upload is 100% provisioned. Could be cheaper than for (the higher rate)

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] active sensing queue management

2015-06-11 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Alan, On Jun 11, 2015, at 03:05 , Alan Jenkins alan.christopher.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/06/15 21:54, Sebastian Moeller wrote: Hi Dave, On Jun 10, 2015, at 21:53 , Dave Taht dave.t...@gmail.com wrote: http://dl.ifip.org/db/conf/networking/networking2015/1570064417.pdf