Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] sce materials from ietf

2019-12-02 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> there are a multitude of papers posted for the buffer sizing workshop > > http://buffer-workshop.stanford.edu/papers/paper23.pdf was interesting. Would be nice to get them to add ECN(sce) to the mix of there tests. > On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:08 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > > > there are no

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] sce materials from ietf

2019-12-02 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > there are no minutes posted. > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-tsvwg-sessa-81-some-congestion-experienced-00 > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-tcpm-some-congestion-experienced-in-tcp-00 > > The above 2 decks are

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] sce materials from ietf

2019-12-02 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Hi Jonathan, > > > > On Nov 30, 2019, at 23:23, Jonathan Morton wrote: > > > >> On 1 Dec, 2019, at 12:17 am, Carsten Bormann wrote: > >> > >>> There are unfortunate problems with introducing new TCP options, in that > >>> some overzealous firewalls block traffic which uses them. This

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] sce materials from ietf

2019-12-02 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> there are no minutes posted. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-tsvwg-sessa-81-some-congestion-experienced-00 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-tcpm-some-congestion-experienced-in-tcp-00 The above 2 decks are identical. Jonathan

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] sce materials from ietf

2019-12-02 Thread Pete Heist
> On Dec 2, 2019, at 6:38 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > > I do hate watching y'all continually concede the "latency" point and > have to argue on the "chosen ground" of single or dualq about > long-running tcp flows. I don’t think we’ve conceded that. It would be possible to run more tests on a LAN