[Bloat] Windows 10 updates multhread limit Feature request to Microsoft

2020-03-27 Thread cloneman
I don't know if the Windows 10 updates multithreading problem is still relevant for many users, but it certainly still affects me as user with low bufferbloat, low latency, and only moderate bandwidth (50mbit , 4ms idle, ~9ms loaded) In any case, I have submitted official feedback to microsoft, as

Re: [Bloat] fcc's coronovirus guidelines

2020-03-27 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, March 27, 2020 3:41 PM -0700 Dave Taht wrote: "put everyone on a schedule"... sigh https://www.fcc.gov/home-network-tips-coronavirus-pandemic How do we educate officials? It's not clear who we'd even address a correction to. Is there a bufferbloat page we can point them to?

[Bloat] fcc's coronovirus guidelines

2020-03-27 Thread Dave Taht
"put everyone on a schedule"... sigh https://www.fcc.gov/home-network-tips-coronavirus-pandemic -- Make Music, Not War Dave Täht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729 ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https:/

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] mo bettah open source multi-party videoconferncing in an age of bloated uplinks

2020-03-27 Thread Hal Murray
> I hate putting things in the kernel! It's insecure. But what this says is > that for very historical and stupid reasons (related to the ideas of early > timesharing systems like Unix and Multics) folks try to make real-time > algorithms look like ordinary "processes" whose notion of controlling

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] mo bettah open source multi-party videoconferncing in an age of bloated uplinks?

2020-03-27 Thread Dave Taht
I don't know to what extent the freeswitch guys would be interested in this thread. I'd like find a good list or forum to talk about the state of the art in videoconferencing ? , the ietf rmcat and webrtc lists are mostly dead. hangouts, jitsi, zoom, etc, seem to be pretty good products nowadays (a

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] mo bettah open source multi-party videoconferncing in an age of bloated uplinks?

2020-03-27 Thread Dave Taht
Of interest given some of what you say below, there is a huge discussion on netdev about how to best implement hardware offloads for network slicing: https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg638836.html Me, I always rolled my eyes up at all the network virtualization stuff and ran from the room, s

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] mo bettah open source multi-party videoconferncing in an age of bloated uplinks?

2020-03-27 Thread David Lang
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020, David P. Reed wrote: Congestion control for real-time video is quite different than for streaming. Streaming really is dealt with by a big enough (multi-second) buffering, and can in principle work great over TCP (if debloated). UDP congestion control MUST be end-to-end

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] mo bettah open source multi-party videoconferncing in an age of bloated uplinks?

2020-03-27 Thread David P. Reed
Congestion control for real-time video is quite different than for streaming. Streaming really is dealt with by a big enough (multi-second) buffering, and can in principle work great over TCP (if debloated). UDP congestion control MUST be end-to-end and done in the application layer, which is u

[Bloat] mo bettah open source multi-party videoconferncing in an age of bloated uplinks?

2020-03-27 Thread Dave Taht
sort of an outgrowth of this convo: https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/815751/786d161d06a90f0e/ I imagine worldwide videoconferencing quality could be much better if we could convince more folk to finally install sqm or upgrade to a working docsis 3.1 solution, etc. Maybe some rag somewhere will fina