Re: [Bloat] Multiple WAN ports & SQM?

2020-05-03 Thread David Lang
I've been wanting to set this sort of thing up (the best DSL I can get is 8/1, and that's with a bondd DSL setup) but have not been able to find a good tutorial in setting things up. anyone have any pointers? David Lang On Sun, 3 May 2020, Dave Taht wrote: Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 07:33:56 -0

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] dslreports is no longer free

2020-05-03 Thread Dave Taht
Hmm. Can webrtc set/see the ttl field? dscp? ecn? I figure it might be able to on linux and osx, but not windows. ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat

[Bloat] upgrade in place

2020-05-03 Thread Dave Taht
I sure wish while everyone is stuck at home, that we could upgrade our routers in place, as well. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/04/frontiers-bankruptcy-reveals-cynical-choice-deny-profitable-fiber-millions -- Make Music, Not War Dave Täht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-8

Re: [Bloat] I hate my ISP

2020-05-03 Thread Michael Richardson
Jan Ceuleers wrote: >> Hello, >> >> So evidently Viasat doesn't know how to handle bufferbloat at all with >> their exede satellite service. It's been really bad today. I've >> attached flent's tcp_1up results for those interested. Note that the >> base RTT is 600ms and up

Re: [Bloat] fast.com quality

2020-05-03 Thread Dave Taht
turn off cake, do it over wired. :) TAKE a packet cap of before and after.Thx. On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 8:31 AM David P. Reed wrote: > > Sergey - > > > > I am very happy to report that fast.com reports the following from my > inexpensive Chromebook, over 802.11ac, my Linux-on-Celeron cake entry ro

[Bloat] fast.com quality

2020-05-03 Thread David P. Reed
Sergey - I am very happy to report that fast.com reports the following from my inexpensive Chromebook, over 802.11ac, my Linux-on-Celeron cake entry router setup, through RCN's "Gigabit service". It's a little surprising, only in how good it is. 460 Mbps down/17 Mbps up, 11 ms. unloaded, 18

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] dslreports is no longer free

2020-05-03 Thread David P. Reed
Thanks Sebastian. I do agree that in many cases, reflecting the ICMP off the entry device that has the external IP address for the NAT gets most of the RTT measure, and if there's no queueing built up in the NAT device, that's a reasonable measure. But... However, if the router has "taken up

Re: [Bloat] Multiple WAN ports & SQM?

2020-05-03 Thread Arie
Already mentioned in other replies, but you can just run SQM on the separate links and load balance those using mwan3. These are my mwan3 rules to balance a BVVDSL and DOCSIS connection: https://i.imgur.com/eAd4Bl5.png Unsticky for ports that can be safely balanced without stickiness (e.g. steam

Re: [Bloat] Multiple WAN ports & SQM?

2020-05-03 Thread Sebastian Moeller
I guess the question is, what Rich needs more urgently, more aggregate rate or more single-flow performance? Then for bonding one needs a dedicated head-end device on the internet side of things, while mwan3 on the router alone should work with any independent links for failover and load sharing

Re: [Bloat] Multiple WAN ports & SQM?

2020-05-03 Thread Dave Taht
not huge on bonding, simpler to just get the two uplinks and split flows across them with an sqm instance for each and a tc hash directing flows at one or another. On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 7:30 AM Daniel Sterling wrote: > > When I had both DSL and cable modem, I compiled Linux with this patch set t

Re: [Bloat] Multiple WAN ports & SQM?

2020-05-03 Thread Daniel Sterling
When I had both DSL and cable modem, I compiled Linux with this patch set to make multi gateway NAT work and it worked great http://ja.ssi.bg/#routes Should be able to use that plus ifb+cake on each NIC to do the right thing, aye? As an aside, I'm kind of furious that NAT fix never got merged u

[Bloat] Multiple WAN ports & SQM?

2020-05-03 Thread Rich Brown
Given the crummy internet service in my area (DSL, max of 15mbps/1mbps), I wonder if we could improve things by getting a second connection from our ISP and "bonding" the two links together in my OpenWrt router. I see both Multiwan (which is self-described as old) and mwan3. But neither would