[Bloat] Why is my WiFi so bad?

2020-05-06 Thread Dave Taht
just once... in one major pub... would I like bufferbloat to be identified as a root cause of home networking problems. Just once. I'd figured when vint cerf and jim and van and nick weaver all got on this root cause back in 2011 that somehow the concept and problem would have ended up in the publ

Re: [Bloat] Slightly OT Re: [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] dslreports is no longer free

2020-05-06 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 8:39 AM David P. Reed wrote: > > While the jury is still out for me on the "best" speed test to recommend to > my friends, family, and even enemies, I think the progression has been good. > > > > Originally, I used to recommend the web-embedded Java test called Netalyzer >

[Bloat] Slightly OT Re: [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] dslreports is no longer free

2020-05-06 Thread David P. Reed
While the jury is still out for me on the "best" speed test to recommend to my friends, family, and even enemies, I think the progression has been good. Originally, I used to recommend the web-embedded Java test called Netalyzer from ICSI. That did extensive tests, and included tests that are

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] dslreports is no longer free

2020-05-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Sergey, > On May 4, 2020, at 19:04, Sergey Fedorov wrote: > > Sergey - I wasn't assuming anything about fast.com. The document you shared > wasn't clear about the methodology's details here. Others sadly, have > actually used ICMP pings in the way I described. I was making a generic > com

Re: [Bloat] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] dslreports is no longer free

2020-05-06 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Dear David, Thanks for the elaboration below, and indeed I was not appreciating the full scope of the challenge. > On May 3, 2020, at 17:06, David P. Reed wrote: > > Thanks Sebastian. I do agree that in many cases, reflecting the ICMP off the > entry device that has the external IP address fo