Re: [Bloat] FW: [Dewayne-Net] Ajit Pai caves to SpaceX but is still skeptical of Musk's latency claims

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Richardson
David P. Reed wrote: > Now if the satellite manages each flow from source to destination as a > "constant bitrate" virtual circuit, like Iridium did (in their case > 14.4 kb/sec was the circuit rate, great for crappy voice, bad for > data), the Internet might work over a set of wi

Re: [Bloat] FW: [Dewayne-Net] Ajit Pai caves to SpaceX but is still skeptical of Musk's latency claims

2020-06-12 Thread Michael Richardson
David Lang wrote: > my point is that the if the satellite links are not the bottleneck, no > queuing will happen there. It's a mesh of satellites. If you build it into a DODAG (RFC6550 would work well), then you will either a bottleneck at the top of tree (where the downlink to the DC i

Re: [Bloat] FW: [Dewayne-Net] Ajit Pai caves to SpaceX but is still skeptical of Musk's latency claims

2020-06-12 Thread David P. Reed
SPRING (I thought) was just packet routing over a set of connected nodes that avoids creating routing tables. I.e. Source Packet RoutING. Now I happen to have written one of the earliest papers on source routing, and also authored the IP source routing options, explaining the advantages of using

Re: [Bloat] FW: [Dewayne-Net] Ajit Pai caves to SpaceX but is still skeptical of Musk's latency claims

2020-06-12 Thread David Lang
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020, Michael Richardson wrote: David Lang wrote: > my point is that the if the satellite links are not the bottleneck, no > queuing will happen there. It's a mesh of satellites. If you build it into a DODAG (RFC6550 would work well), then you will either a bottleneck at