Re: [Bloat] [bbr-dev] Re: Are we heading towards a BBR-dominant Internet?

2022-08-26 Thread Bob McMahon via Bloat
Hi Neal, Any thoughts on tooling to generate and measure the traffic flows BBR is designed to optimize? I've been adding some low duty cycle support in iperf 2 with things like --bounceback and --burst-period and --burst-period

Re: [Bloat] Are we heading towards a BBR-dominant Internet?

2022-08-26 Thread Neal Cardwell via Bloat
Yes, I agree the assumptions are key here. One key aspect of this paper is that it focuses on the steady-state behavior of bulk flows. Once you allow for short flows (like web pages, RPCs, etc) to dynamically enter and leave a bottleneck, the considerations become different. As is well-known,

[Bloat] samknows: probably the best article and history of bufferbloat yet

2022-08-26 Thread Dave Taht via Bloat
Good podcast w/sam too. They have 10 years of data. The average latency under load for DSL is 853ms, https://samknows.com/blog/bufferbloat great work, sam! -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC