Re: [Bloat] Ookla - Introducing a Better Measure of Latency

ithub.com/pollere/pping > <https://github.com/pollere/pping>) and DlyLoc > (https://github.com/pollere/DlyLoc <https://github.com/pollere/DlyLoc>), but > so far I have not tried to make these run on my router (probably should start > on an endhost first). > > &

Re: [Bloat] Ookla - Introducing a Better Measure of Latency

12, 2022, at 12:44 PM, Kathleen Nichols wrote: > > a ping by any other name... > > Has anyone ever done a rigorous study to see how well ping delays correspond > to the delay that information-carrying packets experience? > > On 5/12/22 10:15 AM, Christoph Paasch via Bloat w

[Bloat] Ookla - Introducing a Better Measure of Latency

Ookla's measure of "loaded latency": https://www.ookla.com/articles/introducing-loaded-latency This will hopefully be a shift in how operators approach the bufferbloat problem.

Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] TCP_NOTSENT_LOWAT applied to e2e TCP msg latency

Hi Bob, > On Oct 26, 2021, at 4:23 PM, Bob McMahon wrote: > I'm confused. I don't see any blocking nor partial writes per the write() at > the app level with TCP_NOTSENT_LOWAT set at 4 bytes. The burst is 40K, the > write size is 4K and the watermark is 4 bytes. There are ten writes per burst.

Re: [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] TCP_NOTSENT_LOWAT applied to e2e TCP msg latency

Hello, > On Oct 25, 2021, at 9:24 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote: > > > > On 10/25/21 8:11 PM, Stuart Cheshire via Bloat wrote: >> On 21 Oct 2021, at 17:51, Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast >> wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Sorry for the spam. I'm trying to support a meaningful TCP message latency

Re: [Bloat] [ippm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt

Hello Toerless, thanks for your feedback! Please see inline: > On Sep 21, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > Dear authors > > Thanks for the draft > > a) Can you please update naming of the draft so people remembering RPM will > find the draft ? > Something like: > >

Re: [Bloat] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt

Hello Erik, On 08/19/21 - 09:17, Erik Auerswald wrote: > Hello Christoph, > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 03:01:42PM -0700, Christoph Paasch wrote: > > On 08/15/21 - 15:39, Erik Auerswald wrote: > > > [...] > > > I do not think RPM can replace all other metrics. This is, in a way, > > > mentioned

Re: [Bloat] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt

is email > in order to suggest editorial changes that are intended to improve the > reading experience. They are intended for reading and (possibly partial) > manual application, since the text rendering of an I-D is usually not > the preferred form of editing it. Thanks a lot fo

[Bloat] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-cpaasch-ippm-responsiveness-00.txt

I already posted this to the RPM-list, but the audience here on bloat should be interested as well. This is the specification of Apple's responsiveness/RPM test. We believe that it would be good for the bufferbloat-effort to have a specification of how to quantify the extend of bufferbloat from

Re: [Bloat] Apple WWDC Talks on Latency/Bufferbloat

Hello Sebastian, On 06/29/21 - 09:58, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Christoph, > > one question below: > > > On Jun 18, 2021, at 01:43, Christoph Paasch via Bloat > > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > On 06/17/21 - 11:16, Matt Mathis via Bl

Re: [Bloat] Credit and/or collaboration on a responsiveness metric?

Hello Matt, On 07/05/21 - 16:21, Matt Mathis wrote: > The rounds based responsiveness metric is awesome! There are several > slightly different versions, with slightly different properties > > I would like to write a little paper (probably for the IAB workshop), but > don't want to short

Re: [Bloat] Apple WWDC Talks on Latency/Bufferbloat

+Randall On 06/17/21 - 20:33, Matt Mathis wrote: > Also consider ippm. intarea might be a good choice for joint sponsorship, > but they probably won't want to be the lead. Indeed, ippm might be a good candidate. Thanks! > > BTW by using two TCP connections you potentially give a free pass to

Re: [Bloat] Apple WWDC Talks on Latency/Bufferbloat

Not sure yet - there isn’t a good one that would really fit. Maybe tsvwg or intarea. Suggestions? Cheers, Christoph > On Jun 17, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Matt Mathis wrote: > >  > Which WG are you targeting? > > Thanks, > --MM-- > The best way to predict the future is to create it. - Alan Kay >

Re: [Bloat] Apple WWDC Talks on Latency/Bufferbloat

Hello, On 06/17/21 - 11:16, Matt Mathis via Bloat wrote: > Is there a paper or spec for RPM? we try to publish an IETF-draft on the methodology before the upcoming IETF in July. But, in the mean-time please see inline: > There are at least two different ways to define RPM, both of which might