Re: [Bloat] [NNagain] cloud gaming on a comeback?

-Original Message- From: Nnagain [mailto:nnagain-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Dave Taht via Nnagain Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 8:34 AM To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!; bloat Cc: Dave Taht Subject: [NNagain] cloud

Re: [Bloat] [NNagain] FCC NOI Response has been filed

If you used the ECFS, then the pdf file will be available to everyone through using the URL linked to it. However, I don’t see the doc yet at: https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/search/search-filings/results?q=(proceedings.name:( %-270%22))

Re: [Bloat] [NNagain] correctly calculating code complexity and cost

Atkinson's story, fable, folklore, or not, is AWESOME in s many respects!! [RR] ... https://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Negative_2000_Lines_Of_Code.txt ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/list

Re: [Bloat] [NNagain] A good question - do you know how a toilet works?

See highlighted text below. To follow up on the previous posting on “amoral capitalism”, the tincture of mercury was being promoted by those with mercury to sell, while a good blood-letting was being promoted by leech farmers trying to generate a market for their products! The analogy is surprisi

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] cantor dust

-Original Message- From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Dave Taht via Starlink Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 2:55 PM To: Dave Taht via Starlink; bloat Subject: [Starlink] cantor dust I have been re-reading James Gleick's book on "Chaos", (highly

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

_ From: Sebastian Moeller [mailto:moell...@gmx.de] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:33 PM To: dick...@alum.mit.edu; Dick Roy Cc: 'Rodney W. Grimes'; mike.reyno...@netforecast.com; 'libreqos'; 'David P. Reed'; 'Rpm'; 'rjmcmahon';

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

; to some clock somewhere using NTP or PTP), > the synchronization of the two sets will be different unless a common > reference clock is used AND all the above effects are taken into > account, and good luck with that! J > > In conclusion, if anyone tells you that clock synchroniza

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

-Original Message- From: Sebastian Moeller [mailto:moell...@gmx.de] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:45 PM To: dick...@alum.mit.edu; Dick Roy; 'Robert McMahon' Cc: mike.reyno...@netforecast.com; 'libreqos'; 'David P. Reed'; 'Rpm'; 'blo

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

FYI . https://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/cbrs-based-fwa-beats-starlink-performanc e-madden Nothing earth-shaking :-) RR _ From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Robert McMahon via Starlink Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 9:50 AM To: Seba

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

-Original Message- From: rjmcmahon [mailto:rjmcma...@rjmcmahon.com] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM To: Sebastian Moeller Cc: Dick Roy; Rodney W. Grimes; mike.reyno...@netforecast.com; libreqos; David P. Reed; Rpm; bloat Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Rpm] Researchers Seeking

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

good luck with that! :-) In conclusion, if anyone tells you that clock synchronization in communication networks is simple ("Just use GPS!"), you should feel free to chuckle (under your breath if necessary:-)) Cheers, RR -Original Message- From: Sebastian

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

-Original Message- From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Sebastian Moeller via Starlink Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 12:01 PM To: Rodney W. Grimes Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink; mike.reyno...@netforecast.com; libreqos; David P. Reed; Rpm; rjmcma

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

-Original Message- From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of rjmcmahon via Starlink Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 12:47 PM To: Dave Taht Cc: starl...@lists.bufferbloat.net; mike.reyno...@netforecast.com; libreqos; David P. Reed; Rpm; bloat Subject: Re

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] [LibreQoS] the grinch meets cloudflare'schristmas present

See below . -Original Message- From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of rjmcmahon via Starlink Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 12:39 PM To: MORTON JR., AL Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink; IETF IPPM WG; libreqos; Cake List; Rpm; bloat Subject: Re: [Starlink] [

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] the grinch meets cloudflare'schristmas present

-Original Message- From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Sebastian Moeller via Starlink Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2023 3:12 AM To: rjmcmahon Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink; IETF IPPM WG; j...@jonathanfoulkes.com; libreqos; Cake List; Rpm; bloat Subje

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] the grinch meets cloudflare's christmas present

HNY to all! Seems to me that we often get distracted by nomenclature needlessly. Perhaps it's time to agree on the lexicon that should be used going forward so as to avoid such distractions. Perhaps a place to start is "the technical facts": 1)"capacity" is a property of a link (or

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Rpm] the grinch meets cloudflare's christmas present

OK, so now we are all showing our age! And yes, the lexicon has become really muddied … generally the result of someone who doesn’t know (and thinking they do :-)), speaking the loudest and the longest and whaddaya know, all of a sudden we have “speed tests” and “capacity tests”, when really what

[Bloat] Anhyone have a spare couple a hundred million ... Elon may need to start a go-fund-me page!

You may find this of some relevance! https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/07/ajit-pai-apparently-mismanaged-9 -billion-fund-new-fcc-boss-starts-cleanup/ Cheers (or whatever!), RR ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board

ying about $2.5K per each butler. <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WqWMFHFPo3ltkxkpoyvgPxgdFxmnZpVvpw0NcCTFh GiOTjolvKbP4NugcE-vw1Q3vk9Z7R04YA1k3kQMvyiR5RhcHOjbXbsRMfjLBY-RYML2tFxovzMpT www5UZiu0Xgxzhi8fFru_g> Bob On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 9:13 AM Dick Roy wrote: Well, I hesitate to drag this out, however M

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board

real time. The current approach used by many using butler matrices to produce off-diagonal effects is woefully inadequate. And we're paying about $2.5K per each butler. <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/WqWMFHFPo3ltkxkpoyvgPxgdFxmnZpVvpw0NcCTFh GiOTjolvKbP4NugcE-vw1Q3vk9Z7R04YA1k3kQMvy

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board

Well, I hesitate to drag this out, however Maxwell's equations and the invariance of the laws of physics ensure that all path loss matrices are reciprocal. What that means is that at any for any given set of fixed boundary conditions (nothing moving/changing!), the propagation loss between any two

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board

_ From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Bob McMahon Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 6:24 PM To: Leonard Kleinrock Cc: starl...@lists.bufferbloat.net; Make-Wifi-fast; Cake List; co...@lists.bufferbloat.net; cerowrt-devel; bloat Subject: Re: [Starlink

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board

_ From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Bob McMahon Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 8:23 PM To: David Lang Cc: starl...@lists.bufferbloat.net; Make-Wifi-fast; Cake List; co...@lists.bufferbloat.net; cerowrt-devel; bloat Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Cake

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board

-Original Message- From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of David Lang Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 9:31 PM To: Bob McMahon Cc: starl...@lists.bufferbloat.net; Make-Wifi-fast; Cake List; co...@lists.bufferbloat.net; cerowrt-devel; bloat Subject: Re: [Sta

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board

-Original Message- From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Leonard Kleinrock Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 5:38 PM To: David Lang Cc: starl...@lists.bufferbloat.net; Make-Wifi-fast; Bob McMahon; Cake List; co...@lists.bufferbloat.net; cerowrt-devel; bloat

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Of interest: Comcast AQM Paper

I assume by WiFi what is really meant is devices that have at least one WiFi (layer 1/layer 2) interface. While there are queues in the MAC sublayer, there is really no queue management functionality ... yet ... AFAIK. I know IEEE P802.11bd in conjunction w/ IEEE 1609 is working on implementing

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board

Some terminology if one cares: “Segments” are “transported”(Layer 4) “Packets” are “networked”(Layer 3) “Frames” are “”data linked” (Layer 2) and last but not least … “Streams: flow “over the air” (Layer 1) _ From: Starlink [mailto:starlink-boun...@l