Re: [Bloat] Seen in passing: mention of Valve's networking scheme and RFC 5348

2018-04-04 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:04 PM Jim Gettys wrote: > ​To get to really good RTT's (with low jitter), you still need ​fq_codel > (or similar). You just can't get there by hacking TCP no matter how hard > you try... > > I agree with you on all points here. However, any change which patches an existi

Re: [Bloat] Seen in passing: mention of Valve's networking scheme and RFC 5348

2018-04-03 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:27 PM Michael Welzl wrote: > please, please, people, take a look at the ietf taps (“transport > services”) working group :-) > > I tried looking it up. It seems the TAPS WG is about building a consistent interface to different protocols in order to get a new interface ra

Re: [Bloat] Seen in passing: mention of Valve's networking scheme and RFC 5348

2018-04-03 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 2:47 PM David Collier-Brown wrote: > This is not an initiative I know about, but it mentions Reno and it's > inability to use SACK, so it sounds at first hearing to be another dumb > gamer thing. Opinions, anyone? > Pure guess: They are not trying to solve the problem of

Re: [Bloat] quic's spin bit proposal

2017-12-15 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 9:47 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > In a world where quic is 7% of all traffic presently (wow, I didn't > know)... > > BitTorrent's MicroTP (uTP) had about 15% at some point as well. This was especially scary as: * it used the then not-fully-understood LEDBAT congestion algorith

Re: [Bloat] Questions About Switch Buffering

2016-06-12 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
This *is* commonly a problem. Look up "TCP incast". The scenario is exactly as you describe. A distributed database makes queries over the same switch to K other nodes in order to verify the integrity of the answer. Data is served from memory and thus access times are roughly the same on all the K

Re: [Bloat] Fwd: [Ns-developers] BitTorrent for ns-3: Call for Code Review

2012-12-19 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > I would like very much to be able to analyze stuff like fq_codel under > bit torrent like loads. > I have some knowledge in this area which may help. You should be aware that BitTorrent may use uTP which is a TCP alternative that tries to elimi

[Bloat] What is the best current pseudo-code of the CODEL algorithm.

2012-12-16 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
I am building a load-constraint system, for Erlang, called safetyvalve[1]. Because this system has a concept of a queue I was wondering on applying some AQM to this queue and CODEL looks like an interesting one to ponder about. Especially because the algorithm is wonderfully simple. But is the appe

Re: [Bloat] Plotting ping times in real time?

2011-10-18 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 15:13, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > Has anyone written a Linux program that plots ping times in real time? > I.e. that gives the same information as running ping in an extra window > (with no -c argument), but graphically? My guess would be gnuplot, use "-" as a file to rea

Re: [Bloat] Dealing with P2P traffic in modern networks - measurement, identification, and control

2011-09-28 Thread Jesper Louis Andersen
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 19:40, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote: > If anybody else on the list have links/articles relating to behavioral > traffic classification, I'm interested! :-) My eTorrent uTP branch almost but not quite implement uTP in Erlang. It uses a LEDBAT classifier in its base, and th