Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-10 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Joe, On Jul 10, 2015, at 09:22 , Joe Touch wrote: > > >> On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Joe Touch wrote: >>> >>> Some questions: >>> On 7/6/2015 11:16 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: ... You can flash back the factory fir

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015, Joe Touch wrote: Can you explain where the info on using the sysupgrade command to revert to the factory image is?? http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/linksys/wrt1200ac#how_to_flash_the_firmware_to_device The web ui uses the "sysupgrade" command. So implicitly the instructions

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Joe Touch wrote: Some questions: On 7/6/2015 11:16 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: ... You can flash back the factory firmware without serial, you just use sysupgrade with the Linksys factory image. How does that differ from mtd, e.g., as indicated here (which doesn't menti

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-08 Thread Rich Brown
Thanks all for the comments. Sebastian has indicated our direction well. Here are more details about our process for making the Table of Hardware less inscrutable. We are updating the Table of Hardware (ToH) of the OpenWrt wiki to be generated from a series of "Technical data" templates. We hav

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-08 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Joe, On Jul 8, 2015, at 22:28 , Joe Touch wrote: > Hi, Sebastian, > > On 7/8/2015 1:15 PM, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> Hi Joe, >> >> On Jul 8, 2015, at 20:37 , Joe Touch wrote: > ... >>> The other step, IMO, would be two flags in the OpenWRT list of hardware: >>> >>> - a flag/color th

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-08 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Joe, On Jul 8, 2015, at 20:37 , Joe Touch wrote: > Hi, Matt, > > On 7/7/2015 11:19 AM, Matt Taggart wrote:... >> This message made me realize I hadn't posted the CC+SQM HOWTO I >> wrote, maybe it will be useful, >> >> https://we.riseup.net/lackof/openwrt > > FWIW, this is a big step in the

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-07 Thread Rich Brown
Matt, This is useful. I will review this and give you comments, and ensure any additional knowledge makes it into the OpenWrt HOWTO's. Thanks. Rich On Jul 7, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Matt Taggart wrote: > > This message made me realize I hadn't posted the CC+SQM HOWTO I wrote, > maybe it will be us

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-07 Thread Dave Taht
GWB declared victory too early also, so... 0) ubnt's edgerouter series from the X (49 dollars) to the pro - (8 ports, 300 dollars) also has made an investment in making fq_codel and smart queuing easy to use over their last 3 generations of firmware. Vers They are debian based (and closely relate

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-07 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Joe, These are great observations. CeroWrt was boosted enormously by the presence of the powerful and reliable OpenWrt software platform. We were able to make so much progress with bufferbloat because OpenWrt provided a stable platform for our experiments. Nonetheless, the motivations of the

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-07 Thread Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
Hi Joe (& everyone) Joe, thanks for writing what you did, I really do feel your pain. And Rich's response is indeed superbly crafted & friendly, as is everyone's, a credit to all. I was a complete OpenWrt & SQM newbie around 3-4 months ago and found the website/documentation/sw situation/hw situ

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-07 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Joe, I like your snark… And I like Rich’s elegant restraint in his response, always polite always friendly. On Jul 7, 2015, at 06:22 , Joe Touch wrote: > Hi, Rich, > > On 7/6/2015 7:23 PM, Rich Brown wrote: >> Hi Joe, >> >> The OpenWrt firmware project is a "some assembly required" affair

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-06 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 6 Jul 2015, Joe Touch wrote: - CC-rc2 doesn't have a WRT1200AC build presumably I should have used mvebu-armada-385-linksys-caiman, but it's not at all clear Yes, that's the one for the WRT1200AC. It's called "caiman" internally at Linksys it seems.

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] failing to find the "declared victory" in a current wifi router

2015-07-06 Thread Rich Brown
Hi Joe, The OpenWrt firmware project is a "some assembly required" affair. Although it's not always easy to find, the site has a number of resources: - Buyer's Guide at http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/buyerguide - The specific guidance to search Amazon for "OpenWrt" - see: http://amz