On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:12 PM David P. Reed wrote:
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> This, and the general question of how to get any change like this into the IP
> forwarding components of existing networks, seems to be a very important and
> tough question.
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> IETF seems to be unable to mandate anything, even when there
Small comment on the closing metaphor. I was thinking in the "UNIX world".
But I think this is a much bigger deal than that. So the comparison is really
better when you think about how macOS replaced UNIX when user experience
started to matter to enable growth in the world.
So if you wante
This, and the general question of how to get any change like this into the IP
forwarding components of existing networks, seems to be a very important and
tough question.
IETF seems to be unable to mandate anything, even when there is rough consensus
and working code.
The power has shifted to
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, Holland, Jake wrote:
Hi Mikael,
Any operator nibbles on making this meeting happen?
Nobody else expressed any interest in this, so I kind of dropped the idea.
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Hi Mikael,
Any operator nibbles on making this meeting happen?
I'm not sure how useful I can be, but if there's any network
operators reading, I would love to hear the questions and
concerns from your side, and I'm happy to explain anything
I can help explain.
(Of course if it's just going to be
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019, Jonathan Morton wrote:
Heated agreement from over here, despite my preference for flow
isolation. Plain old AQM can be orders of magnitude better than a dumb
FIFO.
In my testing, FIFO with RED was already huge improvement over just plain
FIFO.
Configuring 1GE shaping
> On 23 Mar, 2019, at 7:00 am, Holland, Jake wrote:
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> I agree even getting some regular basic CE-marking stuff deployed
> would probably be really cool if it can be done sanely.
Heated agreement from over here, despite my preference for flow isolation.
Plain old AQM can be orders of magnitud
On 2019-03-21, 11:32, "Mikael Abrahamsson" wrote:
I'll be at the IETF meeting monday-friday coming week, can we set up a
meeting with some interested parties and actually have a "how do we get
this into networks" kind of meeting. It would not be "my mechanism is
better than your
