Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] can we setup a "how to get this into existing networks" get-together in Prague coming week?

2019-03-26 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, Holland, Jake wrote: Hi Mikael, Any operator nibbles on making this meeting happen? Nobody else expressed any interest in this, so I kind of dropped the idea. -- Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se ___ Bloat mailing l

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] can we setup a "how to get this into existing networks" get-together in Prague coming week?

2019-03-26 Thread Holland, Jake
Hi Mikael, Any operator nibbles on making this meeting happen? I'm not sure how useful I can be, but if there's any network operators reading, I would love to hear the questions and concerns from your side, and I'm happy to explain anything I can help explain. (Of course if it's just going to be

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] can we setup a "how to get this into existing networks" get-together in Prague coming week?

2019-03-23 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019, Jonathan Morton wrote: Heated agreement from over here, despite my preference for flow isolation. Plain old AQM can be orders of magnitude better than a dumb FIFO. In my testing, FIFO with RED was already huge improvement over just plain FIFO. Configuring 1GE shaping

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] can we setup a "how to get this into existing networks" get-together in Prague coming week?

2019-03-23 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 23 Mar, 2019, at 7:00 am, Holland, Jake wrote: > > I agree even getting some regular basic CE-marking stuff deployed > would probably be really cool if it can be done sanely. Heated agreement from over here, despite my preference for flow isolation. Plain old AQM can be orders of magnitud

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] can we setup a "how to get this into existing networks" get-together in Prague coming week?

2019-03-22 Thread Holland, Jake
On 2019-03-21, 11:32, "Mikael Abrahamsson" wrote: I'll be at the IETF meeting monday-friday coming week, can we set up a meeting with some interested parties and actually have a "how do we get this into networks" kind of meeting. It would not be "my mechanism is better than your