Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

Mike Conlow via Bloat wrote: > As I read this thread and think about the coming debate in the U.S., two > things come to mind: > 1. Ofcom is considering > > a net neutrality "clarificati

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

First, a thank you to Dave, and lots of you all, for longtime shepherding of this community and efforts to make the Internet better. As I read this thread and think about the coming debate in the U.S., two things come to mind: 1. Ofcom is considering

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

Hi Mike, [I took the liberty to remove some individual address from the Cc, as I assume most/all already be covered by the lists] > On Sep 30, 2023, at 16:41, Mike Conlow wrote: > > First, a thank you to Dave, and lots of you all, for longtime shepherding of > this community and efforts to m

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

Hi Jan, > On Sep 30, 2023, at 16:28, Jan Ceuleers via Bloat > wrote: > > On 30/09/2023 14:19, Sebastian Moeller via Bloat wrote: >> >> P.S.: Of course if we look close enough we surely can find corner-cases >> where either the EU regulations or the translation into national law result >> in

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

On 30/09/2023 14:19, Sebastian Moeller via Bloat wrote: > > P.S.: Of course if we look close enough we surely can find corner-cases where > either the EU regulations or the translation into national law result in less > desirable outcomes, but "nothing is perfect" and all in all the regulations

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

Hi Frantisek, > On Sep 30, 2023, at 14:00, Frantisek Borsik via Rpm > wrote: > > Back then in 2015, when NN was enacted by Wheeler & CO, there was a great > body of work (IMHO) done on this subject by Martin Geddes: > https://www.martingeddes.com/1261-2/ > > But let's pick one report written

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

Back then in 2015, when NN was enacted by Wheeler & CO, there was a great body of work (IMHO) done on this subject by Martin Geddes: https://www.martingeddes.com/1261-2/ But let's pick *one *report written by

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

ok, lots and lots of great comments here for sure. bandwidth abundance: Not for most people and ISPs. The 'carriers' aren't carrying to many places at affordable rates. I've pulled quotes from Lumen and Zayo at over $5k/month/gig. We typically pay 900-1400 for a gig of service. This isn't abu

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

On 9/29/23, 09:29, "Rich Brown" mailto:richb.hano...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Thank you Jonathan for this clear description of the issues and their > history. I wonder if there's a fourth one - privacy. > Rosenworcel's talk also points out that ISPs might want to monetize our > traffic patterns and

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

Thank you Jonathan for this clear description of the issues and their history. I wonder if there's a fourth one - privacy. Rosenworcel's talk https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-397257A1.pdf also points out that ISPs might want to monetize our traffic patterns and location data. (This

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] net neutrality back in the news

Hi David, > On Sep 29, 2023, at 00:19, David Lang via Rpm > wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023, Livingood, Jason via Bloat wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 20:48:58 + >> From: "Livingood, Jason via Bloat" >> Reply-To: "Livingood, Jason" >> To: dan , Dave Taht >> Cc: Rpm , >>Dave Taht