Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

2023-01-10 Thread David P. Reed via Bloat
On time-sync: Every smartphone sold today can have their clocks synced, both in rate and count value, using GPS that every smartphone has. So I think the problem of no clock sync is based on the fact that NTP and PTP are so very, very ancient. And the tooling (iperf and netperf) don't have muc

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

2023-01-09 Thread rjmcmahon via Bloat
Also released is python code. It's based on python 3's asyncio. It just needs password-less ssh to be able to create the pipes. This opens up the stats processing to a vast majority of tools used by data scientists at large. https://sourceforge.net/p/iperf2/code/ci/master/tree/flows/ https://d

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

2023-01-09 Thread rjmcmahon via Bloat
A peer likes gnuplot and sed. There are many, many visualization tools. An excerpt below: My quick hack one-line parser was based on just a single line from the iperf output, not the entire log: [ 1] 0.00-1.00 sec T8-PDF: bin(w=1ms):cnt(849)=1:583,2:112,3:9,4:8,5:11,6:10,7:7,8:8,9:7,10:2,11

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

2023-01-09 Thread Dave Taht via Bloat
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 12:46 PM rjmcmahon wrote: > > The write to read latencies (OWD) are on the server side in CLT form. > Use --histograms on the server side to enable them. Thx. It is far more difficult to instrument things on the server side of the testbed but we will tackle it. > Your clie

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

2023-01-09 Thread rjmcmahon via Bloat
The write to read latencies (OWD) are on the server side in CLT form. Use --histograms on the server side to enable them. Your client side sampled TCP RTT is 6ms with less than a 1 ms of variance (or sqrt of variance as variance is typically squared) No retries suggest the network isn't dropp

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

2023-01-09 Thread Dave Taht via Bloat
The DC that so graciously loaned us 3 machines for the testbed (thx equinix!), does support ptp, but we have not configured it yet. In ntp tests between these hosts we seem to be within 500us, and certainly 50us would be great, in the future. I note that in all my kvetching about the new tests' ne

Re: [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] Researchers Seeking Probe Volunteers in USA

2023-01-09 Thread rjmcmahon via Bloat
My biggest barrier is the lack of clock sync by the devices, i.e. very limited support for PTP in data centers and in end devices. This limits the ability to measure one way delays (OWD) and most assume that OWD is 1/2 and RTT which typically is a mistake. We know this intuitively with airplane