Re: [Bloat] grading bloat better

2016-10-14 Thread Jonathan Morton
Yes, it looks like typical head-of-line blocking with a multi-second buffer. To smooth it out, you would need an averaging window wider than the effective (bloated) RTT. A tell-tale symptom is that the width of the gap, in which little or no progress is made at the application layer, is

Re: [Bloat] grading bloat better

2016-10-14 Thread jb
Is this classic buffer bloat on 50 megabit cable modem? https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31035315-Weird-speed-test-results-It-falls-off-right-at-the-end by extending the download duration to 30 seconds, what looks like a speed "fall-off at the end" reveals two complete stall/recoveries, and

Re: [Bloat] grading bloat better

2016-10-12 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 13 Oct, 2016, at 06:22, Dave Taht wrote: > > I still might quibble, but a trimmed mean makes more sense than just a mean. > > Problem I always have is bloat is biased always towards the end of a test. > Here, > at 1gbit, it took nearly 20 seconds to start going boom.

Re: [Bloat] grading bloat better

2016-10-12 Thread jb
It is done under the trimmed mean method, that would be a "C" grade result. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:46 AM, jb wrote: > Actually I think the concept I need is the trimmed mean. > throwing away the highest couple of values (lowest couple are not to be > thrown away because

[Bloat] grading bloat better

2016-10-12 Thread Dave Taht
This has major bloat happening at the end of the upload test. Which worries me - here, at a gbit. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/5284047 -- Dave Täht Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! http://blog.cerowrt.org ___