Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-11 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Paolo, More than happy - as always - to discus ways to improve. Naturally we will then have to distinct between assumptions, anxiety, facts and framing. Since wisdom in discussions in not a given per see, and confusion may settle all too easy, let's at least start in the board. Cheers,

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-10 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi all, On 10/04/2022 15:01, Cor Nouws wrote: And while not always perfect, I'm convinced that we are doing a great job in working in a fair, compliant, and transparent way. The system is clearly not perfect and it has been said that changes are necessary for a long time so the fact that

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke wrote on 09/04/2022 14:17: In an ideal world we would have volunteers with 20 years knowledge and 100% spare time. Unfortunately bills need to be paid and we need to care about the ecosystem. At least not to work against them. Yes, TDF needs to care about the

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-09 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Heiko, all, Am 09.04.22 um 08:51 schrieb Heiko Tietze: On 08.04.22 23:48, Paolo Vecchi wrote: You may understand that an external observer may not see the procedure as being fair and conflict free... If you take me as an external observer, the opposite is true. Collabora is home for many

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-09 Thread Heiko Tietze
On 08.04.22 23:48, Paolo Vecchi wrote: You may understand that an external observer may not see the procedure as being fair and conflict free... If you take me as an external observer, the opposite is true. Collabora is home for many experts, every single one always supportive, and never

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-08 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Dear Mr Meeks, thank you for providing your opinion as the general manager of one of our 2 commercial contributors. I really appreciate the technical contributions that your employees/affiliates provide while formulating request for tenders, rank them in the ESC, rank them in the board of

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-07 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
El 7 de abril de 2022 12:28:00 p. m. GMT-03:00, Andreas Mantke escribió: >Hi, > >I'm put out by your reply. You try to move the subject to an emotional >we versus them or bad cop versus good cop. That's a repeated pattern, indeed. >There were 10 TDF members which decided to stand for the

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-07 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi, I'm put out by your reply. You try to move the subject to an emotional we versus them or bad cop versus good cop. There were 10 TDF members which decided to stand for the board at the end of last year. Seven of this members were elected board members and the other three deputy member. As

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-07 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
It's not an idea, I don't imagine stuff. It was a BoD only mailing list thread. That kind of thing is not said in public. El 7 de abril de 2022 9:12:26 a. m. GMT-03:00, Cor Nouws escribió: > > >Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote on 07/04/2022 13:17: > >> Are you, the same one who said 'non coders

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote on 07/04/2022 13:17: Are you, the same one who said 'non coders can't talk', .. I think I explained before, but happy to repeat, that the idea that Michael said that, is at least a huge misinterpretation. Cheers, Cor -- Cor Nouws, member Board of Directors

Re: [board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-07 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
El 7 de abril de 2022 6:58:39 a. m. GMT-03:00, Michael Meeks escribió: >Hi there, > > Since it seems that there are only complainers on one side of >this discussion let me give another view. If only to avoid the idea >that there should be major concessions on one side only. > > I

[board-discuss] Dividing & excluding ...

2022-04-07 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, Since it seems that there are only complainers on one side of this discussion let me give another view. If only to avoid the idea that there should be major concessions on one side only. I am thrilled that three of our founding team: Kendy, Thorsten & Cor are on the